jargar ?

jacopnut2 · #1 01-17-2009, 03:04 AM

I've been playing D'addario hybrids for quite some time and i'm playing more arco than pizz at the moment and I'm looking for a change maybe Jargar or D'addario arco any thoughts?

**Francois Blais** · #2 01-17-2009, 10:26 AM

The Jargars are the darkest steel bass strings on the market.
They are extremely dampened, and designed for arco playing.
(for pizz they give a very thuddy tone)
They come in three gauges, by the way.
You can't go wrong with them for arco, but if you want to pizz them, be aware of their muddiness.

Johnny L · #3 01-17-2009, 06:05 PM

I've only ever tried the forte G, and it felt softer than a spiro mittel G.

It was O.K. arco, but not the loudest I've tried.

Just like Francois says, I think they don't at all make for the stereotypical jazz pizz string unless you want thud only...hardly any sustain. It makes for a poor hybrid string.

**Francois Blais** · #4 01-17-2009, 07:09 PM

After I wrote my reply, I went down in the basement and put back Jargars on my EUB.
I was curious to try them again since my setup has changed since a few weeks.

You can get a much less thuddy tone out of them if your action is really low.
And they're much less prone to rattling than every other steel string.

Okay, the tone is soft and kinda introverted, but very refreshing as it's different and has its own voice.
It's the opposite of the Spirocore, which is loud and extraverted.

jacopnut2 · #5 01-18-2009, 11:35 AM

I'm only interested in arco at the moment so they might be a good choice but i do need a string that can do pizz what about the prelude from D'addario inexpensive!or are they a bad string? I think you mentioned these to me before at that time i was only interested in a light gauge but now i have a good set up and I'm not to concerned with the gauge any other suggestions?

JoeyNaeger · #6 01-18-2009, 02:17 PM

I'm considering trying a jargar G to go along with my belcantos, but I'm unsure as to what gauge to get. I'm more concerned about matching volume than I am actual tension or stiffness. Can any of you offer any advice?

**Francois Blais** · #7 01-18-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jacopnut2

I'm only interested in arco at the moment so they might be a good choice but i do need a string that can do pizz what about the prelude from D'addario inexpensive!or are they a bad string?

Preludes have a nice pizz tone; very warm but not much sustain, if that's a concern.
I can't comment their arco qualities though, sorry!

**Francois Blais** · #8 01-18-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyNaeger

I'm considering trying a jargar G to go along with my belcantos, but I'm unsure as to what gauge to get. I'm more concerned about matching volume than I am actual tension or stiffness. Can any of you offer any advice?

Belcantos are quite soft too, in my experience.
Go for the Medium or Forte gauge, as the Dolce would be too soft.
(the Jargars are not easy to get since a while)

jallenbass · #9 01-18-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyNaeger

I'm considering trying a jargar G to go along with my belcantos, but I'm unsure as to what gauge to get. I'm more concerned about matching volume than I am actual tension or stiffness. Can any of you offer any advice?

The thick (heavy) guage feels pretty normal to me. A little softer than most standard orchestral strings. They are not a loud string but they feel really great under the fingers and the bow.

jacopnut2 · #10 01-19-2009, 09:14 AM

Sustain is an interesting thought as far as strings are concerned I only have experience with corelli and D'addario helicore hybrids and my bow work is not that great which is why i want to focus on that for a while would a string that has less sustain be a good choice for bow work( i still need a good pizz tone) but I don't know if that means I have to have a ton of sustain,I've only been playing about two years so I don't know the difference with all of the strings

**Francois Blais** · #11 01-19-2009, 09:18 AM

Well, Jargars have virtually no pizz sustain at all.
If you want a more hybrid kind of string, you should look at something else, IMHO.

marvin spangles · #12 01-19-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jacopnut2

... focus on that for a while would a string that has less sustain be a good choice for bow work( i still need a good pizz tone)

sounds like Evah Pirastri is the string for you. They feel good have a very interesting pizz tone and speak very easily with the bow. They are one of the best hybrids on the market. If you have an adjustable bridge you can raise the string height a little bit for bowing.