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05-07-2009, 05:17 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Athens Greece | |  less flat 4th and 6th harmonics?
Are there any strings on the markets with 4th and 6th harmonics that are not as flat as a pancake? By the way I'm a classical player so I'm looking for strings that bow well too! 
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05-07-2009, 05:47 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Australia | | | hmm how do you plan to alter the pitches of the overtone series? |
05-07-2009, 06:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Athens Greece | | | I have no idea! I just thought that someone cleverer than me might have found a way to do this...
It was just a thought about tuning after alot of struggling with Bottesini's Allegretto Capriccio. I tune the 4th harmonic bang on and forget the rest for this one piece. It works because the e minor tonality comes uot much more clearly like this. |
05-08-2009, 06:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany | | | You can bend the string a bit to the side, when playing the harmonic. |
05-11-2009, 03:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand | | | You need to understand why the overtones are flat. It's the coupling of the vibration through the bridge pulling the resonant frequency down. So, the only way to get the overtones in tune would be if the instrument made no sound. As has been said, you can pull the string a bit, and playing very close to the bridge also helps. |
05-11-2009, 10:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Niether here nor there. | | The overtones aren't flat, it's just that equal temperament is sharp
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05-11-2009, 11:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand | | | Equal temparament is sharp... but the overtones really are flat too. |
05-12-2009, 06:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Niether here nor there. | | | No wonder I can't play in tune!
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05-12-2009, 07:36 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Quote:
Originally Posted by T-Bal  The overtones aren't flat, it's just that equal temperament is sharp | So the answer is to play in Just Temperament... 
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05-12-2009, 07:49 AM
|  | Oracle, Ancient Order of Rass Hattur | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew McGregor You need to understand why the overtones are flat. It's the coupling of the vibration through the bridge pulling the resonant frequency down. So, the only way to get the overtones in tune would be if the instrument made no sound. As has been said, you can pull the string a bit, and playing very close to the bridge also helps. | Actually, altering the resonant frequency will change the transfer function or "frequency response" but will NOT alter the periodicity. Simply put, the strength of different frequencies can be altered but not the actual frequencies.
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