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03-07-2006, 06:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe, Czech Republic | | | PIRASTRO JAZZER
I have bought my last bass with PIRASTRO JAZZER on it.I like the sound very much, but my mentor thinks they are a bit hard. He recommends me Spirocore Orchestral (both ends red ). What do you think about JAZZERs in compare with SPIROs orchestral? Are these Spiros softer? (I play big band, and my bass need regular tension - so no undertuned solo strings...).
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Vaclav
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03-07-2006, 08:38 AM
| | I'm absent from Talkbass for an indefinite period | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Québec, Canada | | The Jazzers are somewhere in-between Spiro mediums and weichs in terms of tension so using Spiros mediums would load the bass a bit more.
You like them very much?
Keep them and forget about your mentor's own taste! 
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03-07-2006, 08:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Detroit, MI | | | Agreed - stick with what works for YOU. I find that (regardless of what actual tension numbers may say) Jazzers tend to feel looser than Spiros orchs and even the weichs on some basses. Underrated strings, IMO. |
03-07-2006, 10:02 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada | | | I agree with the underrated. The Jazzers are really nice strings. The tension reminds me of Spirocore Weich. The sound is unique. I wouldn't call it "hard". They are very clear sounding. Spirocore Orch(red ends), have a punchier sound with more volume IMO. Depends on the bass of course... |
03-08-2006, 12:46 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Greece-Crete Island-Chania | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Brent Norton I find that (regardless of what actual tension numbers may say) Jazzers tend to feel looser than Spiros orchs and even the weichs on some basses. Underrated strings, IMO. | Absolutely agree! |
03-08-2006, 08:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe, Czech Republic | | | Thanks to all, my special thanks to Francois´s very usefull info:"The Jazzers are somewhere in-between Spiro mediums and weichs in terms of tension so using Spiros mediums would load the bass a bit more".I played both Spiros but on my former bass.
My new bass is cca 70 years old (czech) carved and very niiiiiiiiice instrument (no repairs!!!).Absulte "shooter" I have ever kept in my 56 years old hands.....Life is wonderfull..... |
03-08-2006, 07:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northern Virginia | | | The Jazzer low B and E are the best BOWING strings I've found for orchestral use on my 5-string, after a lot of trial and error (and strong suggestions from one of the other five-string players on this list).
I was surprised, but pleased. |
03-09-2006, 06:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Telford, PA | | | How do the other jazzers (G, D, A) bow? How long is their general life span? I've been playing Obligatos for a while now, and I like them okay, but they don't last more than 4 or 5 months for me (I play at least 4 hours a day almost everyday). How would you compare the Jazzers to the Obligatos (tension, tone, pizz, arco, life, etc)? Thanks!
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03-09-2006, 07:35 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: on the bottom in sw ohio | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by tww001 How would you compare the Jazzers to the Obligatos (tension, tone, pizz, arco, life, etc)? Thanks! | I briefly had a set of Jazzers on a bass that I now have Obligatos on. On this particular bass, the Jazzers just didn't work out, and the Obligatos are working out very well. To me, the Jazzers and Obligatos are very different. The Jazzers are very bright -- even brighter than Spirocores, while the Obligatos are much warmer. As far as arco, even my teacher, who is a member of a major symphony orchestra, was not able to get a useable sound with the Jazzers (it was pretty ugly!), while the Obligatos bow fairly easily. I'd say it really depends on the bass and what you like personally. |
03-09-2006, 08:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Telford, PA | | | Thanks, I had guessed that the jazzer's wouldn't be bowable after hearing people compare them to spirocores.
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03-09-2006, 08:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manhattan (Hell's Kitchen), NY | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by tww001 How do the other jazzers (G, D, A) bow? | Pretty awful, unfortunately. Great pizz sound indeed, though. |
03-09-2006, 05:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northern Virginia | | | Bowing Jazzers
Understand, my comment was only about using the B and E on a five-string. I've never tried to bow any of the other jazzers, and I have it on other good authority that it would be a waste of time to try.
HOWEVER, the B on a 5 string is a great bowing string, compared to a lot of others I've tried. I don't love the way the E bows, but for the volume it produces on my bass, I'll gladly trade off some of the downsides in exchange.
My "bottom line" is that I can't find anything else -- including Spiros -- that produces an acceptable level of volume on B and E, and the Jazzers do it for me. |  | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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