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Old 09-15-2008, 10:17 PM
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Spirocore changed?

I recently tried both Spirocore Mid and Light tension(whole set), and I felt like Thomastik changed the way to make Spirocore. I now have Light set on my bass for about 4 months, and they are already dead!(no sustain, getting tighter).

So did thomastik chage the way to make it? I don't know what it is, but it feels different.

And, does anybody know good alternative for Spirocore? I don't like D'Addario.

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Old 09-15-2008, 10:24 PM
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I put a new set on my bass recently and they were as dark as the 10 year old ones that were on the bass when I bought it. My bass doesn't project a lot of highs but I thought that I would get that Spirocore sound for at least a minute or two. Nope. I bought a set of Dominants and I am enjoying the sound I get with them. Bright enough but with a rounder core of sound.
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Old 09-16-2008, 04:58 AM
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I've just put a set of mediums on and they are not the string I was expecting.

A lot darker, very little fizz.
They are also stiffer/tighter feeling than the medium spiros they are replacing.

Apart from the higher tension feel I actually really like them, but I'm now concerned to think they'll die quickly. I want the sound they have now to last.

They are very different from the previous spiros I've used.
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Old 09-16-2008, 12:53 PM
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We had this discussion on here about four years ago, when I and some others noticed the change (the same one you all are mentioning). The Thomastik rep who was a member here (Mike) insisted that nothing had changed with Spirocores, but I sure noticed a difference.

Francois is right, if you want a string that's like a cross between the old spiro weich and mittel, try the Jazzers. I personally really like the new spiros, although I do yearn for the old vibe sometimes.
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Old 09-16-2008, 02:19 PM
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You guys need to check out Pirastro Jazzers!
Amen. Under rated strings.
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Old 09-16-2008, 02:34 PM
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Mike Shank told me 2 things: he thinks Thomastik changed the formulation for Spiros after Ray Brown died and that he cut an old string and a new string apart and the windings were different.

I've been a Spiro Mittel user for a very long time and I actually like the new version. When new they sound and feel like an old one that's about 2 weeks old. They get to that really nice space a lot faster.

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Old 09-16-2008, 06:59 PM
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Mike Shank told me 2 things: he thinks Thomastik changed the formulation for Spiros after Ray Brown died and that he cut an old string and a new string apart and the windings were different.

I've been a Spiro Mittel user for a very long time and I actually like the new version. When new they sound and feel like an old one that's about 2 weeks old. They get to that really nice space a lot faster.

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I agree. I like the new formula too. In fact I like the sound of the brand new Stark E string than one that's a year old. Quite a turnaround really.

What do you suppose Ray Brown had to do with that?
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:32 PM
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So now my question is, How long does last for you? 6months? 1 year?
Also I'm curious how long you can use Jazzer for.

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Old 09-17-2008, 09:10 AM
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I can get a year out of mine no problem, depending on my $$ I like to go every 6 months since I like fresh strings. The difference is slight, still with the same growl but less harsh zing. I don't mind it at all.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:32 PM
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I agree. I like the new formula too. In fact I like the sound of the brand new Stark E string than one that's a year old. Quite a turnaround really.

What do you suppose Ray Brown had to do with that?
From what I gathered from Mike, Thomastik didn't want to change the formula while Ray, one of their most visible users, was around. Sounds a little fishy to me but I'm just the messenger.

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Old 09-17-2008, 01:34 PM
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I change mine every 6-9 months. I use a Dominant G with a Mittel E, A, and D. I change them when they seem to lose some of their punch and power.

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