Spirocore Mittel E dead sounding

[DoubleMIDI]

I think the side vibration does not tranfer into the pegbox, the nut is too long and the force pressing the string on the nut is too high, but the tension differences from the elongation of the string when vibrating will be transfered into the pegbox.
Maybe this is the explanation.

Of course the force of the string on the nut is smaller with a higher peg, but I think still too high to transfer the side movement of the string into the pegbox.

[Jake deVilliers]

Originally Posted by drurb

I do not have nor will I have a P-Bass!

Sorry Les, I didn't mean to thrust a slab into your protesting hands: I meant the 'Royal You!' Or should that be "Youse?"

I don't own an electric bass either but I'm perfectly happy to work on them.

[RenanDias]

I just joined the organization "Change your E string to A peg and vice-versa", and couldn't get any better!
More powerful E and still powerful A. Sustain on E string has increased.

So happy that decided keeping these Spiro Mittels for a while, since my heart still belongs to Eva Pirazzi Weich (never tried alternate pegs with EP Weich, don't even think it's necessary, E is already floor shaking).

[martinc]

OK...so the E string sounds better when its switched to the A string tuner.
No mention though about the effect of moving the A string to where the E was.
Is the sound of the A string now better, worse... or no change at all?
Thanks.

[fontez5]

Hey Martinc, oddly enough, the A still has the same tonal quality it did before I switched them around. It would make sense it would change like the E did, but nothing different, at least not that I can tell.

I was playing with another guy and he was blown away how loud my bass was compared to his and I feel like the strings are all really starting to balance out in tone and volume. I do need to get the nut for the D & G filled in some now that the guts are off, so hopefully I'll get that done shortly. I've got two gigs next weekend (15th & 16th), so I'd like to have that done by then. i'll be sure to have them give the bass a once over while it's there.

[iiipopes]

Originally Posted by drurb

I do not have nor will I have a P-Bass!

And now for something completely different:
A Different Custom P-style Bass
It's my #1 electric that I take as a backup to my DB gigs, to my EB gigs, and with growly Fender flatwounds and a sponge shoved under the bridge cover, approaches the EB version of Spiros as necessary.

[eerbrev]

Originally Posted by fontez5

You'll have to pry my P from my cold, dead hands for me to give it up!! I used to HATE Precisions, but then one day back in 1999 I picked up a worn out, tired old 1974 P and noodled around. About 30 minutes later I walked out of the shop with it and old girl just couldn't make me happier. Within a week of that I sold my Ric and I haven't had G.A.S. for an electric bass since then. True story!

All i can hear is charlton heston.

[RenanDias]

Originally Posted by martinc

OK...so the E string sounds better when its switched to the A string tuner.
No mention though about the effect of moving the A string to where the E was.
Is the sound of the A string now better, worse... or no change at all?
Thanks.

"A" string keeps doing it's job, no change at all, neither the feel which I thought would felt loosen. About E, what I can say is that it's absurdly growling, and I can feel top and back really vibrating.
PS: my bass is a full carved chinese 3.5K, but i'm sounding like Ron Carter early 60's

[SeayBass]

I have heard of dead spiro E's lately. I own one or two that just don't do what Spirocores are supposed to do.

I would not be surprised if there were a quality control problem with the Spirocores, which, ironically, have gone up in price for the last few years.

[fontez5]

Ok, only a few weeks LATE on finally getting my bass over to the shop. Due to the horrible tone/volume of my E, I haven't hardly played my bass since it sounded so bad. It was so incredibly uninspiring to play that I just chose to not even touch my bass other than a few gigs or band practice. Pathetic. Well, I finally had an opportunity to drag her into the shop and get her looked at.

I needed to get my end pin fixed since it was sticking like mad. A quick filing of surrounding wood and it is now as slick as can be. The luthier also took a listen to the E string and sure enough, it is shot. They had a used E sitting in the shop that I slapped on and BANG! That E string sounded exactly like the rest of them. Paid him a few bucks for the used string and away I went. Got the bass home and jammed it out for a bit so I could hear it in my practice room and it's growling like a rabid dog and the volume is booming. He also checked out the set up and sound post positioning and it's all good to go, so it was definitely a string issue. Next step, see if Thomastik will send me a new string since this set is only about a month old. Either way, the E string is fixed and that's all that matters.

Thanks to all for the suggestions/offers of string swaps and whatever else you guys advised. I'm so darn happy I could just spit!

[Monki]

Reading this tread made me wonder about how new spiros Should sound like.. Got weichs on my bass, for maybe 6 months, and I was surprised how un-bright they were at first... the D felt really muddy and dull at first and took a couple of weeks to come alive and have some good sustain. The same with the other strings but not as much as the D if I remember correctly. Never have had spiros on this bass before, so I have nothing to compare to.. That D got much better, but never been crazy about it, (and the same with rest of the set). Usually, are spiros really bright, growly and sustainy from the start? Could it be that it was a dead string?

[fontez5]

They are super growly, for sure. I wonder if you got a bad string like I did? I'd never played them before I bought this set, but reading up on them and hearing recordings of them, they definitely have an unmistakable growl to them, especially right out of the box. I've had mine on for about a month and they have yet to settle down, but I actually dig the brightness.

[RenanDias]

Spiros (Mittels and Weich) are extremely bright when right out of the box. If they don't zing and growl probably there's something wrong with them.
About Stark I've never played neither heard..