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Old 10-30-2005, 06:04 PM
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Spirocore STARK (Heavy) for Orchestral playing

I just wanted to make a recommendation to orchestral players that want a massive tone with a great fundamental to try the Tomastik Spirocore Stark (or Heavy Gauge). Somehow nobody knows about them, or uses them. Al Laszlo from Cincinnati turned me on to them about ten years ago.
Usually the normal orchestral and the Weich (low tension) are available, and only a few retailers carry the heavy gauge. The catalogs are not consistent in their translation of the name, some list them as Stark, others as Strong, and others as Heavy. What you should know is that they are red at the bottom like all Spirocores, but they are green at the top.

Like all Tomastiks, they require a few weeks of breaking in, the first few days being quite shrill, but then get ready for some serious thunder. To make the first few days easier you may want to put some rosin straight on the strings to help the bow grab the new a somewhat stiff string.

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Old 10-30-2005, 07:32 PM
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What you should know is that they are red at the bottom like all Spirocores, but they are greet at the top.
You meant green, no?

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You meant green, no?

Welcome to the board, Dr Rod.
Why don't you take a inute and fill out your profile, please?
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you meant Why don't you take a minute and fill out your profile, please?
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you meant Why don't you take a minute and fill out your profile, please?
No, actually I think he meant to say "Why don't you take an Inuit and fill out your profile, please."

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Old 10-31-2005, 03:12 PM
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Sorry guys, yes I meant green, and I will fill out my profile, and be a good boy from now on...

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Old 11-01-2005, 12:25 AM
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How does the tone differ from the regular tension? Does the higher tension make them soud different (other than louder)?? I once saw an E string that was stark gauge and it was HUGE. Should people be careful about how much tension these strings put on the bass? I imagine the stark E would make a nice extension string.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:13 AM
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Well,I think Francois might be able to help with more precise info than I have, but as far as I know they have higher tension and the gauge is greater. The gauge is not by any means out of the ordinary though, they are similar to my old pirastro flexocor originals (the old purple ones).

I hope this answers your question.
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Old 07-11-2006, 08:49 AM
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starks for thumb position playing?

I wonder how starks will fare in thumb position playing. I've never tried starks, but boy, I don't want to try it as of now.

anyone has experiences?
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:32 AM
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I'm going mad at the moment trying to decide what strings to put on my bass. not only am I trying to please myself, I also want the bass to be at it's best to sell later this year (and I'm skint so I only want to change strings once)

The spiro stark is begining to interest me more and more. IN part because I have a flatter fingerboard radius than I would like, but I will be able to cut the bridge down a few mm ( i wouldn't dream of having one of these beasts at 14mm!!!) on the E to compensate for the added tension and therfore increasing the apparent radius


However I really disliked the mittel E. on my bass it seemed to lack any punch and posessed a silly amount of growl. I used it for about 9 months.
How much more beef and fundamental does the stark have?

I'm mainly an arco player. Brightness doesn't worry me so long as there is a lot of fundamental (bass allowing)

apologies for the boring monotonous nature of my queries.
any help gratefully appreciated

Thomas
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Starks are burly! Be prepared for some seriously sore fingers, and most likely a ton of sound. I love the things, but I don't play them simply because they're too manly for me. If I weren't such a wuss though... Unless you have a really good setup and some pretty low action, I wouldn't reccomend them.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:50 AM
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I love them. Plenty of fundamental and projection like no other.

I am like you, I don't mind bright strings as long as they have beef. Having said that, not everybody agrees with us. Dark sound lovers and people with a poor bow technique won't like them. If you want to sell your bass well and quick, you might do better with a less extreme setup. This depends on the bass, of course.
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