Stark E and Guts?

Bob Lubecker · #1 10-19-2005, 10:55 PM

Hello everybody!

I was wondering if anybody has had some experience with Guts and a Stark E. I have a Gamut Lyon G on the way to try out, and I'm thinking I'm gonna enjoy it. If I do I will get a D string as well.

From there I don't know what I want for the bottom two though...
I was thinking maybe a stark E, any ideas or comments?

- Bob Lubecker

**Francois Blais** · #2 10-20-2005, 08:17 AM

Stark E = Spirocore?

jmpiwonka · #3 10-20-2005, 08:26 AM

well stark are the heaviest guage if i'm not mistaken. that makes me think you would have a really tight e string next to some guts that are considerably lower tension. might feel funny or might not bother you

**Francois Blais** · #4 10-20-2005, 06:10 PM

My point is: is he talking of the Spirocore stark gauge E?
As you said, stark is the german word for heavy.
Many E strings are available in heavy (or stark) gauge.
I'm thinking of the Flexocor in particular.
Pirastro (a german company) also puts german words on his string pouches, like Thomastik-Infeld, an austrian company.

jmpiwonka · #5 10-20-2005, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by francois

My point is: is he talking of the Spirocore stark gauge E?
As you said, stark is the german word for heavy.
Many E strings are available in heavy (or stark) gauge.
I'm thinking of the Flexocor in particular.
Pirastro (a german company) also puts german words on his string pouches, like Thomastik-Infeld, an austrian company.

i recognized that too.
no mention of which type of stark string is in question.

Bob Lubecker · #6 10-20-2005, 09:01 PM

Oh, I'm sorry. You were right Francois, I mean the Spirocore Stark E, my mistake.

lincland · #7 11-03-2005, 08:41 PM

I have these strings that I have no idea what they are. They might be synthetic or real gut, but wrapped in plastic. Anyway they are THICK like the thickest gut and sound really nice. I use three of them with a STARK (orchestra guage) Spirocore. The match is perfect. The E and the A are about the same diameter...actually the "gut"(?) A is probably a little bigger, but the sound is matched perfectly, and I get that really nice low growl and sustain on the E.

I know someone in NY who uses a Gut G with three spirocores...he loves that setup.

try it.

Lincoln

**Francois Blais** · #8 11-04-2005, 08:17 AM

Are they whitish or black?
If they're whitish, they could be Eurosonics.
They use a steel rope-core, but the outer wrapping is polyamide.
If they're black, they're LaBella 7710's.

**Adrian Cho** · #9 11-04-2005, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Lubecker

Hello everybody!

I was wondering if anybody has had some experience with Guts and a Stark E. I have a Gamut Lyon G on the way to try out, and I'm thinking I'm gonna enjoy it. If I do I will get a D string as well.

From there I don't know what I want for the bottom two though...
I was thinking maybe a stark E, any ideas or comments?

- Bob Lubecker

Please report back how this works out - both the Spirocore Stark and the Gamut Lyon. I believe I am the one that started the Gamut Lyon craze here and I'm glad to see others using them. I am currently using Lyons on G and D and Permanents on A and extended E (C). The only thing that keeps bugging me is that the low C is not all there with the Permanent. D and Db yes but C is not satisfying. Spirocore Mittel extended E had the thunderous low C (pizz or arco) but it was too bright. I thought about trying a Superflexible but am not so hot on those in general at the moment. Also thought about Jazzers too but some comments made me stay away from those too. I wonder about a Spirocore Stark. I wonder why Quinn's website only shows Weich and Mittel Spirocores - no Stark.

**Adrian Cho** · #10 11-04-2005, 05:46 PM

OK, as luck would have it, I checked the Thomastik site and it appears they don't make a Spirocore Stark extended C string. Looks like I'm still sticking with the Permanent.

AMJBASS · #11 11-05-2005, 07:42 AM

The Stark is a neat string. It has a ton of volume with a very strong midrange. The 2 basses that I own have somewhat thin tops and the Starks are extremely high tension. I also have found that lower tension strings generally match up better with plain gut. They seem to be tonally a little more similar. Adrian, why don't you try a Dominant extended E?

**Adrian Cho** · #12 11-05-2005, 07:54 AM

Same problem with the Dominant - they don't make an extension string.

AMJBASS · #13 11-05-2005, 08:06 AM

Hmmmm. I am still curious as to how you found the Spirocore Extended E to be bright. I have always found the E and A to be quite dark in that set. Maybe you should give that string another try.

**Adrian Cho** · #14 11-05-2005, 08:20 AM

Definitely bright compared to the guts and the Permanent.