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11-24-2009, 09:38 PM
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11-24-2009, 10:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nashville Tenn | | | Looks great ,,fix what needs to be fixed, but don't refinnish it,,also those are the original knob tuners,,really rare,,,great find, |
11-25-2009, 12:31 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bozeman Montana | | Congrats Aaron  . Have Fun. I have '40 Kay O-1 .... Them old ones sure can soound good. If you have James C. on the case .... You are in good hands  . That fellow seems to know what he is doing (just don't let him cut a hole in the side so he can watch the cow digest the hay  ) . |
11-25-2009, 05:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Harrisburg, NC | | Nope, no refinishing, I love that old look. It feels real solid but I'm no luthier so I think James C. can get the most out of the setup. I like cows, but don't want to see them eat 
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11-25-2009, 12:11 PM
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Owner/The Bass Spa, String Repairman/L & M Vancouver | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Crescent Beach, BC | | Gorgeous! And its got hatpegs... |
11-25-2009, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by superman  Looks great ,,fix what needs to be fixed, but don't refinnish it,,also those are the original knob tuners,,really rare,,,great find, | I don't think Kay ever used anything other than plates, I think you can see where the plates used to be, the section of the scroll between the machines is unvarnished...
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11-25-2009, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua I don't think Kay ever used anything other than plates, I think you can see where the plates used to be, the section of the scroll between the machines is unvarnished... | I wasn't sure either. From the Roger Stowers web page:
Many of the early basses have tuners made in Czechoslovakia. The Czech tuners were used sporadically from 1937 until 1946. I have only seen them used on Orchestra model basses. The vast majority of the tuners from Czechoslovakia were used prior to 1939. The Czech tuners were of at least two different styles. The ones with the wooden knobs and the all brass style. The ones with the wooden knob say “Made in Czechoslovakia” and the all brass style simply say “Czechoslovakia”.
Superman knows his Kay basses, for sure! 
What a great looking bass, I agree with Superman about keeping it as original as possible. Does it have an Ebony board? |
11-25-2009, 02:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | Learn something new and all that, but the only thing that makes me think that these aren't original is the photo of the back of the scroll - next to last photo in the second line of them. The "missing" varnish on the side of the scroll corresponds to where the plate would hit.
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11-25-2009, 03:12 PM
| | | It will be interesting when apherigo shares more details!
I can't see what you are seeing..... |
11-25-2009, 03:15 PM
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Owner/The Bass Spa, String Repairman/L & M Vancouver | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Crescent Beach, BC | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Learn something new and all that, but the only thing that makes me think that these aren't original is the photo of the back of the scroll - next to last photo in the second line of them. The "missing" varnish on the side of the scroll corresponds to where the plate would hit. | I can't see the present bass clearly enough to know if those are original but I have seen 2 Kays with original hatpegs. I love hatpegs... |
11-25-2009, 03:19 PM
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11-25-2009, 04:17 PM
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Bass Hobby'ist | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern PA | | I have seen two of these Kay’s in person with hat peg tuners one was a 1937 owned by Kyle Perkins and the other was right here in my home town three years ago. It had the Czechoslovakia stamp on the individual tuners. I passed on the bass because it was in really poor condition. I never saw another bass that has such HUGE grooves in the fingerboard…there must have been a pile of sawdust when that guy finished a gig. The bass was a 1938 Kay Orchestra…much like this one. So a few Kay's do exist with hat pegs, but they are far and few between.
Good luck with getting it back in top form…I think it is awesome just the way it looks now. No need to make it purdy if it sounds good. |
11-25-2009, 06:47 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nashville Tenn | | | Looks all original to me,,no other plate holes,,and those are the same type knob tuners that I have seen on Kays before,,I think I have seen 5 or so in my days,,,really rare |
11-25-2009, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MR PC I wasn't sure either. From the Roger Stowers web page:
...The ones with the wooden knob say “Made in Czechoslovakia” and the all brass style simply say “Czechoslovakia”. | The ones in the pics seem to say "Zechoslovakia." Is the "Made in" also there? Is this an exception to what's on the Stower page? Just curious.
Hey, the bass looks great. Congrats!
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11-25-2009, 08:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NYC | | | I think the C might be under the screw hole. Looking at the bigger pictures it looks like there's varnish under the machine. I stand corrected....
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11-25-2009, 08:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Harrisburg, NC | | | The C is partially obscured by the screw. I couldn't find "Made in" anywhere on the machine. Looks like they didn't spend much time accuratly placing the "czechoslovakia" stamp. The bass sounds real good to my ear, I can't wait to get it set up right. The previous owner had it stored at his Dad's house for years.
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11-25-2009, 09:11 PM
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Bass Hobby'ist | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern PA | | Have no fear James C. will do this vintage beauty justice…he likes crusty old Kay’s.
Your bass in my opinion is original and quite a find…enjoy. |
11-27-2009, 12:10 PM
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11-27-2009, 02:18 PM
| | | Isn't that a Dylan tune......"Love to spend the Night with Peggy Kay"?
I'm curious about origin of the wood used in the ply on these Prewar Kays. Euro or USA? Somehow I think the earlier Kays might be a bit lighter in construction. |
11-28-2009, 06:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Harrisburg, NC | | | Peggy Day by Bob Dylan
Peggy Day stole my poor heart away,
By golly, what more can I say,
Love to spend the night with Peggy Day.
Peggy night makes my future look so bright,
Man, that girl is out of sight,
Love to spend the day with Peggy night.
Well, you know that even before I learned her name,
You know I loved her just the same.
An' I tell 'em all, wherever I may go,
Just so they'll know, that she's my little lady
And I love her so.
Peggy Day stole my poor heart away,
Turned my skies to blue from gray,
Love to spend the night with Peggy Day.
Peggy Day stole my poor heart away,
By golly, what more can I say,
Love to spend the night with Peggy Day.
Love to spend the night with Peggy Day
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