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07-09-2011, 08:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Hampshire, USA | | | Badass II .. drop-in replacement on new Fender Am. Std. P Bass?
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I was wondering if anyone knows if the Leo Quan BA II is a drop-in replacement on new Fender American Standard Precision basses? These basses have the high mass vintage bridges with only 3 screws and through holes for the strings.
I know the BA II would cover up the through holes, but I didn't know if 3 of the 5 BA II screw holes line up with the current bridge holes. | 
07-10-2011, 12:54 AM
| | | | no, it's not. (it's also not an improvement over the stock bridge anyway.)
the badass III is a direct fit, but again, why?
it's kind of a moot point, you can't get either one these days.
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07-10-2011, 01:02 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Harpers Ferry WV | | | To say it doesn't affect tone or anything else is a little off. But yes, you would need a BadAss III because of being string through and the bridge screws lining up.
I AB'd a standard bridge, a Gotoh 201, and a Badass. Not only could I get better (lower) action with the Badass, it had better clarity and attack.
If you play with your tone knob off it doesn't make a difference. If you like a more aggressive attack and better action it does do that.
Been using a BadAss for 12 years now, and not because it says BadAss. | 
07-10-2011, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by fenderhutz I AB'd a standard bridge, a Gotoh 201, and a Badass. Not only could I get better (lower) action with the Badass, it had better clarity and attack.
| With the Gotoh 201 I've found it's often necessary to shim the neck to achieve lower action due to its thick saddle barrels.
With a change to a bridge of a different design or materials it is very possible that the sound will change to some degree. Whether a user can hear the difference or considers it an improvement is up for grabs.
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07-10-2011, 01:14 PM
| | | | how can one "get lower action" with a new bridge,when the original fender bridge can drop low enough to lay the strings on the frets already?
that's just a set-up thing, regardless of what bridge is on there (unless the replacement is way too thick, in which case the neck might need to be shimmed a little).
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07-10-2011, 02:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: D'Shaw | | Quote:
Originally Posted by walterw how can one "get lower action" with a new bridge,when the original fender bridge can drop low enough to lay the strings on the frets already? | I think the OP was talking about the Gotoh 201 compared to the Badass II, not the original Fender bridge.
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07-10-2011, 04:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chester, Pa.,USA | | | Why bother? The stock bridge is already a high mass bridge. A Badass is not gonna make any difference.
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07-10-2011, 04:42 PM
|  | keepin' the beat since the 60's | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Studio City, SoCal, USA | | | High mass bridges are not always an improvement. If you have a nice resonant body, the high mass bridge will damp out a lot of that.
They are currently used by many manufacturers for consistency, since the good, dense, resonant woods are getting harder to find and more expensive.
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