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Old 07-09-2011, 08:40 PM
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Badass II .. drop-in replacement on new Fender Am. Std. P Bass?

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I was wondering if anyone knows if the Leo Quan BA II is a drop-in replacement on new Fender American Standard Precision basses? These basses have the high mass vintage bridges with only 3 screws and through holes for the strings.

I know the BA II would cover up the through holes, but I didn't know if 3 of the 5 BA II screw holes line up with the current bridge holes.
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no, it's not. (it's also not an improvement over the stock bridge anyway.)

the badass III is a direct fit, but again, why?

it's kind of a moot point, you can't get either one these days.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:02 AM
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To say it doesn't affect tone or anything else is a little off. But yes, you would need a BadAss III because of being string through and the bridge screws lining up.

I AB'd a standard bridge, a Gotoh 201, and a Badass. Not only could I get better (lower) action with the Badass, it had better clarity and attack.

If you play with your tone knob off it doesn't make a difference. If you like a more aggressive attack and better action it does do that.

Been using a BadAss for 12 years now, and not because it says BadAss.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:32 AM
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I AB'd a standard bridge, a Gotoh 201, and a Badass. Not only could I get better (lower) action with the Badass, it had better clarity and attack.
With the Gotoh 201 I've found it's often necessary to shim the neck to achieve lower action due to its thick saddle barrels.

With a change to a bridge of a different design or materials it is very possible that the sound will change to some degree. Whether a user can hear the difference or considers it an improvement is up for grabs.
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how can one "get lower action" with a new bridge,when the original fender bridge can drop low enough to lay the strings on the frets already?

that's just a set-up thing, regardless of what bridge is on there (unless the replacement is way too thick, in which case the neck might need to be shimmed a little).
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Old 07-10-2011, 02:09 PM
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how can one "get lower action" with a new bridge,when the original fender bridge can drop low enough to lay the strings on the frets already?
I think the OP was talking about the Gotoh 201 compared to the Badass II, not the original Fender bridge.
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:27 PM
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Why bother? The stock bridge is already a high mass bridge. A Badass is not gonna make any difference.
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High mass bridges are not always an improvement. If you have a nice resonant body, the high mass bridge will damp out a lot of that.

They are currently used by many manufacturers for consistency, since the good, dense, resonant woods are getting harder to find and more expensive.
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