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Old 12-12-2010, 06:02 AM
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Alright everyone, I am going to mod my bass instead of buying a new one. I am totally new to this and was wondering if anyone can point me to a good thread that gives a walk through. I especially need a good website to part shop.

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Old 12-12-2010, 06:19 AM
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what are you trying to achieve by modding? the question is too vague.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:00 AM
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what are you trying to achieve by modding? the question is too vague.
I want to change the pickups, preamp, and bridge. I want the bass to sound richer and cleaner.
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:03 PM
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I am guessing you are talking about the Ibanez GSR-200 in your profile? I have tried one and found it actually sounded pretty good. In my opinion your biggest limiting factor is your 20watt amp. Even the nicest bass will sound a bit thin and boxy through a small amp. Try the bass through a bigger rig before deciding which one to upgrade.

If it has to be the bass then start cheap and do one thing at a time. Start by having a tech change out your pots for high quality ones. Should only cost a few bucks a pot plus labour. See if that helps.

After that there is plenty of debate on wether pickups or pre should go first. To upgrade both with new stuff will cost $300 to $400 so you are now encountering that tricky situation of "maybe I should just buy a better bass or amp".

Here is a good option I just thought of: For $100 get the Dimarzio PJ set http://accessories.musiciansfriend.c...Set?sku=302285. The model P and model J sound fat and growly and are great wired up passive, thus: have a tech rip out the pre amp in your Ibanez and wire it up passive. The Ibanez has four pots so get them to wire it up with a volume and a tone for each pickup. (it will need different pots for passive so that solves that as well) and even with labour you should come out no worse than $200. In my opinion this will be the cheapest way to maximize the tone of your bass.

Don't worry about the bridge. The Ibanez one is fine. My AV '62 Fender Jazz with the cheesy little bent metal bridge has some of the best sustain I have heard in any bass.


EDIT: Just noticed that the GSR-200 is already passive. There you go, just have a tech drop the Dimarzio's right in and you are in business. A pot upgrade would help though. At this pricepoint upgrading the pots can make an appreciable difference.

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Old 12-12-2010, 04:02 PM
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The pots as in the potentiometers? That changes the tone?
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:08 PM
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The pots as in the potentiometers? That changes the tone?
Correct!

Cheap pots can muddy up the tone. Decent quality pots will only run you 3-5 bucks each so you are looking at 10-15 bucks extra.

Pots on a passive bass are essentially adjustable filters. Run your tone through crappy filters and you will be choking the pickups. This will be a step towards the "cleaner" tone you were looking for.
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:29 PM
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The GSR200s do have that "phat" EQ boost knob.

IMO if it were my bass I'd get rid of that and just find some pickups that sound good passive. If later on you decide you want a preamp, get one then.

If you get pickups that sound good to start with then a the preamp has a nice platform to "propel" your tone up from (this doesn't mean it can't make it worse though, so choose wisely).
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:56 PM
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The GSR200s do have that "phat" EQ boost knob.

IMO if it were my bass I'd get rid of that and just find some pickups that sound good passive. If later on you decide you want a preamp, get one then.

If you get pickups that sound good to start with then a the preamp has a nice platform to "propel" your tone up from (this doesn't mean it can't make it worse though, so choose wisely).
Agreed.

My original post was a bit of a mash up....

My streamlined recommendation: Get a passive PJ set (like the Dimarzio's) and since you have four pots now, dump the "phat boost" or whatever it is and get a tech to wire up some new pots with separate volume and tone knob for each pickup.

$100 for pickups, $10-$15 for pots plus whatever labour will cost for install and your bass will sound completely different.

This will give you all the versatility you will need. With a good set of pickups you won't need any kind of bass boost.
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Or, if you prefer, get a master volume/blend/master tone setup.

That's my preference
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Old 12-12-2010, 08:00 PM
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Correct!

Cheap pots can muddy up the tone. Decent quality pots will only run you 3-5 bucks each so you are looking at 10-15 bucks extra.

Pots on a passive bass are essentially adjustable filters. Run your tone through crappy filters and you will be choking the pickups. This will be a step towards the "cleaner" tone you were looking for.
Excellent usename! Thanks for the tip! This is my next step since I can't beat the price!
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