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Old 11-12-2007, 01:12 PM
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Bass stand not suitable for nitro guitars??

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I've just ordered a five guitar stand, and on the website it clearly states that its not suitable for nitro finished guitars. What can I cover the foam with to stop it reacting with my two nitro basses? Would black electrical insulation tape be OK (sorry, don't know if that's what you call it in the US...).

On a slight side note, a none nitro finished neck has discoloured from being sat on a single guitar stand for about two months...is this normal? Never known it before. Guitar in question is a $300 Jackson.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:22 PM
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yes, it's called "electrical tape" for short, but electrical insulation tape also fits.

i've read of users wrapping the contact points with a cotton rag, to avoid any adverse reactions.

on your guitar, I can't really fathom what happened. My recommendation is to use a case with faux fur.
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:07 PM
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I've got a slight mark on the back of a white Gibson T-Bird neck from such a stand before the "warnings" came out. I'm only guessing but it seems the "imported" foam-finish-eater stuff must be cheaper than the surgical tuning that USED TO BE standard on stands.

Eventually, as more non-nitro cases get complained about, the root cause(crap rubber for stand contact points) might get fixed.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:24 AM
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I first saw this problem when I worked for the Quik-Lok distributor back in the early 90's, and it can be serious. I had to come up with the technical solution, as well as being put in charge of several refins due to customer liability.

As a general rule, if your guitar has a nitro finish, do not purchase guitar stands that use black ANYTHING to cushion the arms or neck rest. The solvents that continuously escape from nitro finishes will cause the black pigment to dissolve and leach into the finish over a period of time. The problem is reduced with catalyzed nitro, but the type of nitro finish used by a guitar manufacturer is usually not divulged.

The neck and body rests should sport latex rubber tubing...period. No synthetics, or you are asking for trouble. If your axe is finished in a synthetic, then you have no worries. Some oil finishes might contain small amounts of solvents, so proceed with caution.

Latex rubber tubing in different sizes is readily-available in most good hardware stores and is cheap. There's no reason to risk your guitar's finish.
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:42 AM
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I would suggest buying bandages. They are cheap, easily replacable, and what's shock absorbent enough for the human body should be shock absorbent enough for a bass.

Oh, and i think they are pretty chemically inert too.
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I would suggest buying bandages.
be sure to buy the Super Mario bandages.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:14 PM
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This is a hard lesson, I learned the hard way, and I ended up with blister like bubbles in the finish of my 50th anniversary Delux strat, and It had to be from the stand because it is exactly where the contact is.

I actually covered the bottom of the 5 guitar stand with lambs wool, and it's been ok no problems in a couple of years.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:26 AM
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be sure to buy the Super Mario bandages.
Im not talking about the small plastic things you put on small wounds... im talking about those large, long pieces of white cloth you use to wrap up large wounds...
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Im not talking about the small plastic things you put on small wounds... im talking about those large, long pieces of white cloth you use to wrap up large wounds...
oooooh

well it's a shame, that they don't make those with Super Mario Graphics
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:38 PM
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Im not talking about the small plastic things you put on small wounds... im talking about those large, long pieces of white cloth you use to wrap up large wounds...
Yeah but won't those be coloured and react with the finish?
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:40 PM
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This is a hard lesson, I learned the hard way, and I ended up with blister like bubbles in the finish of my 50th anniversary Delux strat, and It had to be from the stand because it is exactly where the contact is.

I actually covered the bottom of the 5 guitar stand with lambs wool, and it's been ok no problems in a couple of years.
Lambswool what? The only thing that springs to mind is some sort of car wash mitt.

How did you physically fix it to the stand?
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:01 AM
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What about the grey foam that they use to line custom flight cases?
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:06 AM
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HI

Sadowsky gives you these fuzzy pieces that go over the holder when using a hanger type stand. They work great

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