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Old 04-28-2011, 07:07 AM
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Hi everybody,
i've bought a d-tuner by Hipshot model GB7. I use it on my Tobias 5 strings in the B Key. Now i'm looking for a d-tuner for the E key. The matter is that a d-tuner like that i've just it's too big and the screw for the intonation in dtune mode doesn't work because it touches the key in the other part of the head.
In the picture you can see the head of my bass with the GB7 installed.



So i know there are some d-tuner called "beleved" o smaller that can fit on the E or A key.
Where i can find it?
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The pic isnt working and its kind of hard (for me) to understand what youre trying to describe.
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i try to explain better...
i've to put the dtuner on E string but that one i'm using on B string is too big so I need a smaller one...

where i can find it and buy it?
maybe the pic can be viewed



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Pic works and that makes more sense. Unfortunatly im not sure where or if you can get a smaller size extender.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:20 AM
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hello again,
i've find this hardware that is smaller but is also different from the original



this is a
HIPSHOT BLACK ULTRALITE BASS D-TUNER X-TENDER HE6Y-3/8
or
HIPSHOT BLACK ULTRALITE BASS D-TUNER X-TENDER HE6Y-1/2

what would i use the 3/8 key or the 1/2 one?
so if i will use one of those would i need to change also the other key?
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Hello kod, unfortunately what you want to do is not possible with normal Hipshot xtender and your tobias bass. The problem is; that even if the Ultralite's Baseplate is smaller compared to the normal Xtender, and both xtenders will fit just fine in your headstock, there won't be enough room for the lever on the E string Xtender to reach the position where it succesfully detunes the string; as it will hit the adjacent tuning machine.
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You could send an email to Hipshot. Im sure they can help you.
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I've installed D-tuners on the E on Peavey TL-5s. It was a little complicated.

Installed the drop tuner in the E position to see how it fit.
Found the front of the lever would hit the B string gear box and the adjustment screw would hit the D string gear box.
I first ground off/shaped/polished the front of the lever to miss the gear box on the B tuner.
Removed the D string tuner, put masking tape in it's position, re-installed the D string tuner, penciled the outline and removed the tuner.
Found the tuning range needed for the drop tuner, made measurements based on outline of the D string tuner to find how much the adjustment screw had to be shortened to miss the gearbox on the D string tuner. Cut the screw with threaded bolt cutters and reformed the tip.
Had to shorten the adjustment screw spring a few turns and stretch it to keep it from stacking up but still have decent tension on the screw.
Access to the knurled knob is a little tight but everything works fine.

From the pics it looks like you don't have room for D-tuners on both the B and E. It looks like (as you stated) the body of the D string tuner will interfere with the tuning screw on the E d-tuner and the lever hardware on the E may interfere with the tuning screw on the B but I really can't tell for sure.

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Old 04-29-2011, 05:22 AM
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thank you all for the answers....

in the B tuner position the Dtuner does its work..
in the E tuner position the screw of the dtuner has not room such as said by mech.. and also the level in the dtuner has a little room in which can't work in right way.

so i send a mail to hipshot to resolve the problems... i could try to modify the dtuner such mech too...
but i'm scared to do a bad work and destroy the dtuner
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You're not the only one with this problem. I've seen Hipshot provide solutions for a few different people, ranging from extending the lever outward to clear the other tuners, to Jauqo's (sorry if I spelled that wrong, J-man) double-drop tuners (two tuners, 1 lever). Definitely send them an email. They're great guys over there.
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You're not the only one with this problem. I've seen Hipshot provide solutions for a few different people, ranging from extending the lever outward to clear the other tuners, to Jauqo's (sorry if I spelled that wrong, J-man) double-drop tuners (two tuners, 1 lever). Definitely send them an email. They're great guys over there.

It's all good. You spelled it correctly.


Hipshot has done a couple Double D-Tuner systems for me. This system allows me to drop my E and A string (down to C# and F#) at the same time with the flip of one lever.Below is a pic of my double D-tuner on my Lakland 4-94 to give you an idea of what it looks like.


Contact Bill Woolery at Hipshot with any questions that you may have.

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That double drop tuner system is bad*ss! The guys at Hipshot hit that one out of the park.
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That double drop tuner system is bad*ss! The guys at Hipshot hit that one out of the park.


Yes they did.


I always felt that having one D-tuner just wasen't working for my needs. I wanted to have the ability while playing a four string the ability to drop two strings and ride the low frequencies. I knew that it would give me more sonic room to do what i needed vs only having one dropped string and riding on that.


I approached Hipshot, I was informed that they had never done anything like that nor ever had such a request. Bill at Hipshot gave it a second of a thought and he was on it. I have to say, that I am extremely happy to see my thought/idea/concept turned into reality.
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Old 05-04-2011, 05:34 AM
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Some news....
i've send a mail to hipshot... they answered me to send some picture about my Tobias... i'll send them later..

but i've just solved the matter changing the original screw with a smaller one and cutting a part of the level that could crash against the B tuner...

In this way the GB7 does its work properly

these are two picture of the modified GB7





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Some news....
i've send a mail to hipshot... they answered me to send some picture about my Tobias... i'll send them later..

but i've just solved the matter changing the original screw with a smaller one and cutting a part of the level that could crash against the B tuner...

In this way the GB7 does its work properly

these are two picture of the modified GB7

thank you everybody
Congratulations on having the courage to modify the tuner and get it worked out. Finding the shorter screw with a smaller head was the key. I know filing down the front of the lever was a big step for me to take. Those things are expensive!

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Old 05-06-2011, 05:11 AM
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Congratulations on having the courage to modify the tuner and get it worked out. Finding the shorter screw with a smaller head was the key. I know filing down the front of the lever was a big step for me to take. Those things are expensive!

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