Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 09-05-2005, 07:51 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Dead D string

Sign in to disble this ad
I have a 62 MIA Reissue Jazz which I bought used and was built in 2001. It is a very nice bass but the D string sounds dead. I had it set up with new strings but it didn't help. Every note on the string lacks sustain, especially at high volumes. Can someone tell me what is wrong with it?
  #2  
Old 09-05-2005, 08:09 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Jamaica, Queens, NY. By JFK.
Send a message via AIM to Tbirdbassist Send a message via MSN to Tbirdbassist Send a message via Yahoo to Tbirdbassist
I think this belongs in the Set Up sections.



Why dont people look around first...

__________________
Bass, Drums and Cycling = My Loves
soundcloud.com/celltheoremnoise
  #3  
Old 09-05-2005, 08:19 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
I first though that it should be in strings, but then I thought it was more of a bass problem.

Is there something wrong with the nut or the bridge?

Last edited by KeithBMI : 09-05-2005 at 08:22 PM.
  #4  
Old 09-05-2005, 08:26 PM
BurningSkies's Avatar
CRAZY BALDHEAD
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seweracuse, NY
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithBMI
Is there something wrong with the nut or the bridge?
Those are really the only 2 options...but if even the fretted notes are dead, it really means it can only be a bridge problem...
  #5  
Old 09-05-2005, 08:30 PM
Registered User

Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Basses
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: SLC, Utah -USA-
I had a bass that had the same problem on it's E-string. Check the nut to make sure it isn't cracked.

Could be a bridge saddle that's not making full contact with the bridge's baseplate, weird.

Do you have at least 2 windings around the string post?

That's about as far as I can guess.

Hope you can get it ironed out. Best wishes,
- Art
__________________
Nobody seems to like the 36"scale...but 34 will never do. Players will tolerate 35...not as good as 36, but ***--gotta sell, gotta sell. -AJ
  #6  
Old 09-05-2005, 08:38 PM
Registered User

Endorsing Artist: Mike Lull Custom Basses
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: SLC, Utah -USA-
Quote:
Originally Posted by BurningSkies
Those are really the only 2 options...but if even the fretted notes are dead, it really means it can only be a bridge problem...
I was still thinking this through and posting when you posted this response. (Man do I feel stupid )

Steve S: Does the D string sound dead when you're playing the bass without an amp?
__________________
Nobody seems to like the 36"scale...but 34 will never do. Players will tolerate 35...not as good as 36, but ***--gotta sell, gotta sell. -AJ
  #7  
Old 09-05-2005, 09:42 PM
Chunk-O-Funk's Avatar
Funkify your Life
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The Bucket, RI.
Supporting Member
I have read somewhere before about dead spots on guitars, something about the way a body of a guitar will resonate or vibrate causing a particular string to sound dead. One way to compensate for this is to add a weight to the headstock to see if adding mass to the instrument will shift the dead spot.

I read that a long time ago so I hope I'm not way off base.

If it's not the nut or bridge (I would check them first too) it's worth checking out.

You could experiment with a small wood clamp (C-clamp) if you have one. Just protect the wood with some small pieces of scrap wood and do not tighten it too much.
  #8  
Old 09-05-2005, 09:45 PM
BurningSkies's Avatar
CRAZY BALDHEAD
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Seweracuse, NY
Supporting Member
Doesn't sound like a 'dead spot' to me... They tend to run just a fret or two on the neck. I've never heard of a full neck D string 'dead spot'.

Check that bridge out...and make sure that you're not twisting that string when you put it on.
  #9  
Old 09-06-2005, 10:35 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Hi Folks,

Thanks for the replies. I had the bass set up and restrung at Bass NW because I thought it was just a bad D string. I had Chad put DR Low Riders on it but it didn't help. You cannot notice the dead notes unamplified or at low volume....only at high volume. The string is wound around the peg three times like the others. When the band is playing hard and fast, it's weird when every note, especially those on the first through fifth frets lacks sustain on the D string.
  #10  
Old 09-06-2005, 10:59 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Raleigh NC
Supporting Member
How do you have the strings run at the bridge? Is it strung through the body, or out the back of the bridge? I had a dead E string on my fretless Jazz and it was due to a very sharp break angle as the string came up strung through the body and made a nearly 90 degree break over the saddle.

Since it's on every note on the string, the problem has to be something at the bridge. That is the only common factor.
  #11  
Old 09-06-2005, 11:02 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
I have the exact same problem!I wanna know the cause.Intonation?
__________________
If playin bass is wrong I don't wanna be right-Me
  #12  
Old 09-06-2005, 12:27 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by sb69coupe
How do you have the strings run at the bridge? Is it strung through the body, or out the back of the bridge? I had a dead E string on my fretless Jazz and it was due to a very sharp break angle as the string came up strung through the body and made a nearly 90 degree break over the saddle.

Since it's on every note on the string, the problem has to be something at the bridge. That is the only common factor.
The string goes through the bridge.
  #13  
Old 09-06-2005, 04:22 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
anyone?
__________________
If playin bass is wrong I don't wanna be right-Me
  #14  
Old 09-06-2005, 04:53 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Raleigh NC
Supporting Member
The common element here is the saddle on the bridge. Perhaps get a replacement saddle for the bridge and give that a try. Although I'm not sure what you mean by the following comment:

"You cannot notice the dead notes unamplified or at low volume".

If there is a lack of sustain it should be apparent regardless of the volume of the amp.
  #15  
Old 09-06-2005, 06:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by sb69coupe
The common element here is the saddle on the bridge. Perhaps get a replacement saddle for the bridge and give that a try. Although I'm not sure what you mean by the following comment:

"You cannot notice the dead notes unamplified or at low volume".

If there is a lack of sustain it should be apparent regardless of the volume of the amp.
The D string sounds just like the other ones at low volume but when I turn the volume up, it doesn't vibrate like the others. Every note on that string sounds dead at high volume. It is a weird sound but I'll check the bridge and nut again.
  #16  
Old 09-07-2005, 09:30 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Chicago
pickup problem?

It could be a pickup problem.
I read a while back about a lakland that had single string volume issues, and it was the pickup that was damaged.

Test the d with each pickup soloed and see if it is imbalanced when only one of them is soloed

You could also try taking out the pickups and swiching the pickups so the poles that are under the D are under the A string if the A string comes out dead then you know the problem.

I know it sounds like a chore, but it's only 8 screws, and it might isolate the source of the problem

Good Luck
__________________
Eilif's T-40 infosheet
  #17  
Old 09-08-2005, 08:15 AM
HeavyDuty's Avatar
Supporting Curmudgeon
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Suburban Chicago, IL
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbirdbassist
I think this belongs in the Set Up sections.

Why dont people look around first...

What are you, the post police? If you can't contribute constructively, don't post. If you see a thread in the wrong section, report it - don't make snide comments.

Sheesh. Moved.
__________________
Ken

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.

As I cuddled the porcupine he said I had none to blame, but me.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:19 AM.




Copyright ©2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All right reserved.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.