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12-11-2012, 07:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: PTX | | | I went from Marcus Miller strings to Fender flats and guarantee there was a tension difference. I adjusted intonation but did not adjust the truss rod. I took a chance and I like the way it is. As far as filing the nut because the strings are bigger, wider, etc., I would not do it. What if I wanted to go back to the rounds? Now I need a new nut. if I had five basses it wouldn't matter but I don't. |
12-11-2012, 07:47 PM
|  | Fingers on Four Fretless Strings | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY & MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Swipter  I went from Marcus Miller strings to Fender flats and guarantee there was a tension difference. I adjusted intonation but did not adjust the truss rod. I took a chance and I like the way it is. As far as filing the nut because the strings are bigger, wider, etc., I would not do it. What if I wanted to go back to the rounds? Now I need a new nut. if I had five basses it wouldn't matter but I don't. | Trying to fit a string into a nut slot that's too small is a done deal that you'll crack a nut... probably on the E string. If you want to go back to a narrower gauge string... no problem... it will work just fine. You don't need a new nut.
So... to recap...
large gauge string into too small nut slot = N/G
small gauge string into larger than necessary nut slot = okay |
12-11-2012, 08:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Virginia Beach, VA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Swipter I went from Marcus Miller strings to Fender flats and guarantee there was a tension difference. I adjusted intonation but did not adjust the truss rod. I took a chance and I like the way it is. As far as filing the nut because the strings are bigger, wider, etc., I would not do it. What if I wanted to go back to the rounds? Now I need a new nut. if I had five basses it wouldn't matter but I don't. | Not so. I changed a 5er from BEADG to EADGC, same nut, with no issues.
bassinplace, definitely learn how to set up your instrument. I do mine twice a year, after the weather changes. Yes, it's intimidating at first. You'll probably worry that you're screwing something up. You'll do step 1. Then you'll do step 2. You'll wonder how step 2 affected step 1, so you'll redo step 1, and so on. Save all critiquing until it is 100%. Just follow the directions and you can't go wrong. Don't have it done professionally. Take the money you would have spent on that and invest in some specialty tools that will make easier for you to do it yourself. Now for the price of one setup, you have the tools to do your own setups for a some time. You'll be glad you did.
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12-11-2012, 10:13 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manitoba, Canada | | | ^ apples to oranges. You went from a B to an E. A B is bigger than an E. if you file a nut it get one of two things; wider or deeper. Filing for the smaller E in your case is obviously not required. The other fella said he went from round to flat. I had one nut that when I switched to flats of the same gauge, I had to open the nut up the E just wouldn't go in. The factory slot was too tight.
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12-11-2012, 10:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manitoba, Canada | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by DiabolusInMusic If you remove all the strings off your bass you will need to do a setup. When your bass was shipped to the store it was shipped at tension because the neck has so much tension on it without a counter tension to keep it where it is it will move.
When changing strings always ensure you leave one string on, I usually change the G string first and then change the other 3 at the same time. The G string has the most tension (or whatever your highest may be tuned to). | Yeah, no.
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12-11-2012, 10:38 PM
|  | RnFnR | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Philadelphia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazz Ad A setup is a normal thing to do. Takes 10 minutes. | 10 minutes? I spend several hours doing a complete set-up: truss rod, string height, setting the radius, then intonation. Keep in mind that I probably have mild O.C.D. ... |
12-12-2012, 05:21 AM
| | Fingers on Four Fretless Strings | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY & MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by kander 10 minutes? I spend several hours doing a complete set-up: truss rod, string height, setting the radius, then intonation. Keep in mind that I probably have mild O.C.D. ... | Tell me... What is "setting the radius" ? |
12-12-2012, 11:53 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Morton IL USA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Slowgypsy
Tell me... What is "setting the radius" ?
| If you look at your neck, its not flat. It has a slight curve to it. This is the radius.
You strings should follow this curve. So on a 4 string bass the E and G stings will be slightly lower than the A and D stings.
After you set your string radius, you may have to adjust pick-up height to get uniform volume from all the strings.
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12-12-2012, 01:16 PM
| | Fingers on Four Fretless Strings | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY & MA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by schecter5string If you look at your neck, its not flat. It has a slight curve to it. This is the radius.
You strings should follow this curve. So on a 4 string bass the E and G stings will be slightly lower than the A and D stings.
After you set your string radius, you may have to adjust pick-up height to get uniform volume from all the strings. | Never thought about it as a separate event. I call it adjusting the action. Properly adjusting the action will yield properly adjusting for the radius of the neck. |
12-12-2012, 01:21 PM
|  | mi la ré sol | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | Yes it's the same as adjusting the action.
Curvature, action, intonation, pickup height, setting done. |
12-12-2012, 01:52 PM
| | RnFnR | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Philadelphia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Slowgypsy Never thought about it as a separate event. I call it adjusting the action. Properly adjusting the action will yield properly adjusting for the radius of the neck. | I set the action on my E and G string first, then, adjust the A and D string to follow the radius of the fretboard after. |
12-12-2012, 03:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bassinplace No interest, no. Fear, yes. | read the stickies in setup/repair. I was scared of the truss rod until I read them. setup is simple as heck. worked a serious bow out of the neck of my Cort Pbass with little effort. now it plays great. |
12-12-2012, 03:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manitoba, Canada | | | Oh yeah! Good for you! Good to be self sufficient eh?
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12-14-2012, 03:14 PM
|  | I wanna be...say, what day is it today, Ted? | | Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Location, Location | | Quote:
Originally Posted by DwaynieAD read the stickies in setup/repair. I was scared of the truss rod until I read them. setup is simple as heck. worked a serious bow out of the neck of my Cort Pbass with little effort. now it plays great. | Yeah, that's the thing that scares me a bit. I love the way my bass plays now and I play it a lot so I'd hate to screw up a good thing. I do want to try new strings though. I've got a cheap Yamaha fretless that I almost never play so I'm gonna take a run at that one first and see what I get.
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