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04-18-2011, 03:28 PM
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I use a hipshot x-tender key on my jaguar bass and I'm slowly getting more and more frustrated with the floppyness when I have it flipped down to a D. Is there an existing bridge to add an inch of length to my e-string while leaving the other 3 strings as is? Ideally I'm thinking that a bridge that has the extra inch of length and then is ported for through body stringing would clear up the issue.
does this make sense to anyone but me?
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04-18-2011, 03:32 PM
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You need a fanned fret bass
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04-18-2011, 03:34 PM
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any other suggestions to 'firm up' the action of the e string when flipped down to d?
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04-18-2011, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PatO really? just to change the scale length of 1 string... well there goes that idea.
any other suggestions to 'firm up' the action of the e string when flipped down to d? | A heavier E?
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04-18-2011, 03:35 PM
| | | | That sounds like a great idea. Get to work and get it patented, I'll buy one. I've never seen one like it. Though DR makes strings for dropped tunings where the E is calibrated to be at the same tension at D as the other strings. Downside: When you're in E, it's gonna be really tight.
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04-18-2011, 03:36 PM
| | | | If you did it then none of the fretted notes would be at correct pitch.
Maybe you need a 5 string or tune BEAD with a heavier set, or use a heavier E string. | 
04-18-2011, 03:38 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colchester VT | | | I'm using a pretty heavy E string as is - Rotosound RS88's the E string is a 115.
I'll look into the DR strings, I don't think I'd mind a tight E string. Any idea which strings these are?
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04-18-2011, 03:43 PM
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04-18-2011, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassman822 Maybe something like the arrangement on the Kubiki X-Factor (?) basses where the remaining length of the E string was held under a clamp | I thought of that, but with the jaguar headstock there isn't much room for the extra length of fretboard that would be required.
what are the odds of a kubicki neck sliding into the pocket on a jag? does anyone else make necks like these?
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04-18-2011, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BritPicker If you did it then none of the fretted notes would be at correct pitch. | +100
I was hoping someone would realize that
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04-18-2011, 04:08 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Colchester VT | | | so it appears that my only real option aside from playing a 5 string is to get a heavier string?
is there an online reference aside from you wonderful people that would provide the gauge string necessary to have the open low D not be a floppy/muddy mess?
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04-18-2011, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PatO so it appears that my only real option aside from playing a 5 string is to get a heavier string?
is there an online reference aside from you wonderful people that would provide the gauge string necessary to have the open low D not be a floppy/muddy mess? | Check out Circle K strings: Circle K Strings - Circle K Strings
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04-18-2011, 05:56 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix, Arizona 85029 | | The Kubicki Ex Factor does that, although it's still on the tuner side. It increases the scale length about 4" on that one string to allow for drop D.
You cannot apply any sort of mechanism like that to the bridge, however, because you will completely throw out intonation.
I also believe that they hold a patent on the mechanism that does it, so good luck getting something like that in an after-market unit.
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04-18-2011, 05:57 PM
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04-18-2011, 09:13 PM
| | | | D standard tuning and capo at the 2nd fret when you need E standard? I did that for a while with my band.
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04-18-2011, 11:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lighthouse Point, FL | | I don't think the Kubicki basses have a 34" scale; you'd also have to put the tuning machines on the bridge side of the bass.
A better alternative would to design a fingerboard extension like on modern double basses. The fingerboard extends well beyond the tuning machine and the string makes a hairpin turn at the end to go into the machine. I'd kinda like to see this for electric basses. Especially a Fender drop-in mod. I've been dreamin about it for a little while.  | 
04-18-2011, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PatO so it appears that my only real option aside from playing a 5 string is to get a heavier string?
is there an online reference aside from you wonderful people that would provide the gauge string necessary to have the open low D not be a floppy/muddy mess? | DR makes a bunch of sets in 50-110 which is what I used to use for drop D. Also works well for D standard. | 
04-18-2011, 11:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Boston MA | | | go out and buy a section of small tubing or something that the ball end will not fit through, but the string will (Home depot as some nice bushings for this). when you string up your bass, put this on the e string first as a spacer between the ball end and the bridge. you can increase the string length as much as you want without changing intonation. its not pretty but it could be an easier solution. | 
04-18-2011, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Grantrudd go out and buy a section of small tubing or something that the ball end will not fit through, but the string will (Home depot as some nice bushings for this). when you string up your bass, put this on the e string first as a spacer between the ball end and the bridge. you can increase the string length as much as you want without changing intonation. its not pretty but it could be an easier solution. | And it won't do anything.
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04-19-2011, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Grantrudd go out and buy a section of small tubing or something that the ball end will not fit through, but the string will (Home depot as some nice bushings for this). when you string up your bass, put this on the e string first as a spacer between the ball end and the bridge. you can increase the string length as much as you want without changing intonation. its not pretty but it could be an easier solution. | Wth are you on dude?
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