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aglide 01-12-2013 01:15 PM

Does a setup REQUIRE you to change the strings?
 
I play an AVRI Precision Bass with DR 45-105 flats that have been on the bass for about a year. I bought the bass from another TBer and just swapped out the existing strings with what I like. A setup was not done at the time.

A local guitar tech is telling me he can't do a setup without replacing the strings. Is that true? I ask because it seems like a lot of players pride themselves on having the same set of flats for years and years.

Nashrakh 01-12-2013 01:17 PM

I haven't found replacing strings to be necessary, ever.

Most I would do is detune them so I can get at some of the more delicate parts, like the underside of the pickguard or adjusting truss rod.

I see no reason why you absolutely have to change them, anyway.

lowsideonacurve 01-12-2013 01:23 PM

I'll bet he has a set of strings he'd like to sell you.:eyebrow:

I would find another tech, you can most certainly setup a bass without changing to new strings.

Or, if you are mechanically inclined, download the setup guide from Fender and do it yourself.

pbass2 01-12-2013 01:52 PM

Any good tech who knows basses and bass players should understand that some folks want nicely aged strings on their bass! Unless there's something wrong with the strings, or one of the strings(in which case you would prolly want to change the whole set), then you most certainly "can" do a setup with the existing strings.

aglide 01-12-2013 02:13 PM

Thanks guys. I called another tech that was recommended to me by a friend, and he said basically the same thing you've said. He leaves it up to the player unless there's something wrong with the existing strings.

adivin 01-12-2013 02:19 PM

I read this in one of the set up guides on TB also. May have been Jerzy Drozd. I never did adhere to it.

96tbird 01-12-2013 02:22 PM

No sense in new if those are the strings you want on the bass. Tech is pocket picking.

bassmeknik 01-12-2013 02:25 PM

Techs pulling this line are usually trying to sell strings for their boss...

jwr 01-12-2013 02:30 PM

I'm in the same general area as you. Mind telling me which shop so I can avoid going to them? I use the GC in Overland Park and never have had issues. The luthier there is cool and never pressures me about anything. He talks my ear off about stuff I only half understand usually. haha

maturanesa 01-12-2013 04:07 PM

Its the inverse, changing strings require a setup

Pilgrim 01-12-2013 04:13 PM

The answer is definitely NO. Sometimes the reverse is true - a change of strings requires a setup - but a setup does not require changing strings. Many basses have setups done with no string change.

I play flats that are from 1 to 40 years old depending on the instrument. If any tech ever takes off my old strings, he better run and hide, because I'll be all over him!!!!!

Troph 01-12-2013 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilgrim (Post 13709802)
I play flats that are from 1 to 40 years old depending on the instrument. If any tech ever takes off my old strings, he better run and hide, because I'll be all over him!!!!!

40 year old flats? Wow. You have to admit that's a bit abnormal. :)

Pilgrim 01-12-2013 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troph (Post 13709932)
40 year old flats? Wow. You have to admit that's a bit abnormal. :)

WOOOOHOOOOHOOOO...had to insert evil laugh.

Yeah, most strings don't last that long but this bass was in storage for 20 years or so...the flats were installed in 1972 and they still sound fantastic. I am convinced that flats last forever and sound good.



aglide 01-13-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwr (Post 13709353)
I'm in the same general area as you. Mind telling me which shop so I can avoid going to them? I use the GC in Overland Park and never have had issues. The luthier there is cool and never pressures me about anything. He talks my ear off about stuff I only half understand usually. haha

You have a PM :ninja:

pbass2 01-13-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilgrim (Post 13710069)
WOOOOHOOOOHOOOO...had to insert evil laugh.

Yeah, most strings don't last that long but this bass was in storage for 20 years or so...the flats were installed in 1972 and they still sound fantastic. I am convinced that flats last forever and sound good.



That is a sexy machine! Nice color--never seen one quite like that...

testing1two 01-13-2013 03:47 PM

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f18/do...ing-up-939216/

awilkie84 01-13-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aglide (Post 13709048)
I play an AVRI Precision Bass with DR 45-105 flats that have been on the bass for about a year. I bought the bass from another TBer and just swapped out the existing strings with what I like. A setup was not done at the time.

A local guitar tech is telling me he can't do a setup without replacing the strings. Is that true? I ask because it seems like a lot of players pride themselves on having the same set of flats for years and years.

Your tech is a tool. You need to do a setup SOMETIMES when changing strings to a different type, as tension & gauge may change. You DO NOT need new strings to do a setup. -_-

FunkJunk96 01-13-2013 03:54 PM

A tech up here says that it's for intonation purposes. I didn't ask further than that, because he didn't impress me when I asked him a few questions I knew the answers to.
Honestly I agree with the guy earlier. A change of strings requires a setup.

Floyd Eye 01-13-2013 03:58 PM

It is definitely true that a new set of strings is not necessary for a set up. It's also not true that a new set of strings requires a set up.

Pilgrim 01-13-2013 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunkJunk96 (Post 13714091)
A tech up here says that it's for intonation purposes. I didn't ask further than that, because he didn't impress me when I asked him a few questions I knew the answers to.
Honestly I agree with the guy earlier. A change of strings requires a setup.

Usually, not always. If the new strings are smiliar in tension to the previous ones, no setup will be needed. Intonation may shift slightly but setting intonation is not a full setup, it's merely one part of a setup.


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