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01-12-2013, 01:15 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Kansas City, MO | | | Does a setup REQUIRE you to change the strings? I play an AVRI Precision Bass with DR 45-105 flats that have been on the bass for about a year. I bought the bass from another TBer and just swapped out the existing strings with what I like. A setup was not done at the time.
A local guitar tech is telling me he can't do a setup without replacing the strings. Is that true? I ask because it seems like a lot of players pride themselves on having the same set of flats for years and years. | 
01-12-2013, 01:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamburg, Germany | | | I haven't found replacing strings to be necessary, ever.
Most I would do is detune them so I can get at some of the more delicate parts, like the underside of the pickguard or adjusting truss rod.
I see no reason why you absolutely have to change them, anyway.
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01-12-2013, 01:23 PM
| | | I'll bet he has a set of strings he'd like to sell you.
I would find another tech, you can most certainly setup a bass without changing to new strings.
Or, if you are mechanically inclined, download the setup guide from Fender and do it yourself.
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01-12-2013, 01:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles | | | Any good tech who knows basses and bass players should understand that some folks want nicely aged strings on their bass! Unless there's something wrong with the strings, or one of the strings(in which case you would prolly want to change the whole set), then you most certainly "can" do a setup with the existing strings. | 
01-12-2013, 02:13 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Kansas City, MO | | | Thanks guys. I called another tech that was recommended to me by a friend, and he said basically the same thing you've said. He leaves it up to the player unless there's something wrong with the existing strings. | 
01-12-2013, 02:19 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Metairie, LA | | | I read this in one of the set up guides on TB also. May have been Jerzy Drozd. I never did adhere to it.
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01-12-2013, 02:22 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manitoba, Canada | | | No sense in new if those are the strings you want on the bass. Tech is pocket picking.
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01-12-2013, 02:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fair Haven, MI | | | Techs pulling this line are usually trying to sell strings for their boss...
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01-12-2013, 02:30 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Overland Park, KS | | | I'm in the same general area as you. Mind telling me which shop so I can avoid going to them? I use the GC in Overland Park and never have had issues. The luthier there is cool and never pressures me about anything. He talks my ear off about stuff I only half understand usually. haha | 
01-12-2013, 04:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina | | | Its the inverse, changing strings require a setup | 
01-12-2013, 04:13 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | The answer is definitely NO. Sometimes the reverse is true - a change of strings requires a setup - but a setup does not require changing strings. Many basses have setups done with no string change.
I play flats that are from 1 to 40 years old depending on the instrument. If any tech ever takes off my old strings, he better run and hide, because I'll be all over him!!!!!
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01-12-2013, 04:53 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kirkland, WA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilgrim I play flats that are from 1 to 40 years old depending on the instrument. If any tech ever takes off my old strings, he better run and hide, because I'll be all over him!!!!! | 40 year old flats? Wow. You have to admit that's a bit abnormal.  | 
01-12-2013, 05:32 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Troph 40 year old flats? Wow. You have to admit that's a bit abnormal.  | WOOOOHOOOOHOOOO...had to insert evil laugh.
Yeah, most strings don't last that long but this bass was in storage for 20 years or so...the flats were installed in 1972 and they still sound fantastic. I am convinced that flats last forever and sound good. 
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01-13-2013, 03:39 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Kansas City, MO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jwr I'm in the same general area as you. Mind telling me which shop so I can avoid going to them? I use the GC in Overland Park and never have had issues. The luthier there is cool and never pressures me about anything. He talks my ear off about stuff I only half understand usually. haha | You have a PM  | 
01-13-2013, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim WOOOOHOOOOHOOOO...had to insert evil laugh.
Yeah, most strings don't last that long but this bass was in storage for 20 years or so...the flats were installed in 1972 and they still sound fantastic. I am convinced that flats last forever and sound good.  | That is a sexy machine! Nice color--never seen one quite like that... | 
01-13-2013, 03:47 PM
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01-13-2013, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by aglide I play an AVRI Precision Bass with DR 45-105 flats that have been on the bass for about a year. I bought the bass from another TBer and just swapped out the existing strings with what I like. A setup was not done at the time.
A local guitar tech is telling me he can't do a setup without replacing the strings. Is that true? I ask because it seems like a lot of players pride themselves on having the same set of flats for years and years. | Your tech is a tool. You need to do a setup SOMETIMES when changing strings to a different type, as tension & gauge may change. You DO NOT need new strings to do a setup. -_-
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01-13-2013, 03:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Michigan, USA | | | A tech up here says that it's for intonation purposes. I didn't ask further than that, because he didn't impress me when I asked him a few questions I knew the answers to.
Honestly I agree with the guy earlier. A change of strings requires a setup. | 
01-13-2013, 03:58 PM
|  | Registered Loser | | Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis | | | It is definitely true that a new set of strings is not necessary for a set up. It's also not true that a new set of strings requires a set up.
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01-13-2013, 06:20 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkJunk96 A tech up here says that it's for intonation purposes. I didn't ask further than that, because he didn't impress me when I asked him a few questions I knew the answers to.
Honestly I agree with the guy earlier. A change of strings requires a setup. | Usually, not always. If the new strings are smiliar in tension to the previous ones, no setup will be needed. Intonation may shift slightly but setting intonation is not a full setup, it's merely one part of a setup.
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