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Old 04-09-2011, 08:59 PM
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Got an epi woody allen rumblekat shortscale.love the bass,but the bridge is pretty limited in adjustment&the screws seem to be locked. I can't turn them in either direction. Are there lock washers on it? I got to lower it a little. Can I get any adjustmants outta this thing or is it crap? Will the hipshot supertone work on an archtop? I don't want to buy 1 cause it's 160.00 in gold. Do these 3 point bridges work? Peace&bass to all...
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:03 PM
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Sorry: it's an ALLEN WOODY rumblekat(too many movies) lol
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:20 PM
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Back off the string tension before adjusting and you'll find it works more easily. I haven't had problems adjusting my Epi 3-points so they work OK, but many people do prefer the Hipshot. If in doubt, call Hipshot - they're nice people and will make sure you get the right bridge.
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Old 04-10-2011, 08:46 PM
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Thanks pilgrim-how do you get around not having individual string height adjustment,just eyeball the 3 screws til it looks/feels/intonates right?
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:34 AM
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a friend from another board wrote this guide:


1. Screw down the bridge evenly over all three screws till you have an action around the 15th and higher frets that is comfortable for you without any or too much buzz (some players don't mind a little buzz or even like it, that is a matter of taste). Keep the front stud a little higher for best string to saddle pressure. Retune the bass, don't worry about buzzing in the lower registers at this point.

2. Now you've got your bass retuned with a lower action at the high frets. Your lower frets will now either buzz (see 2a for the subsequent steps) or the action will still be too high even in the low registers (see 2b for the subsequent steps).

2a: Low Register buzzes: You need to loosen the truss rod. Take off the truss rod cover and insert an allen wrench in the allen nut (the cheaper Epis generally have allen nuts). Don't detune the bass for that, rather lift the A and the D string to the side to the slots of the G and E string to have room for turning the allen wrench. With the bass' butt resting on your toes (clean those sneakers!) and the strings/fretboard facing away from you, you - while standing up and looking down - will now turn the allen wrench <--- counterclockwise <---. Epi truss rods move easily (if noisily), turn it and immediately look to find out how the action of the bass has altered and buzzing has become less or disappeared. Don't be scared of overdoing it - it is impossible to break a truss rod by loosening it as you are releasing tension. That said, one or two "one third turns" counterclockwise should do it. sometimes you will need a few more of those to actually adjust the bass if the neck is too straight or even curved away from the fretboard.

2 b: Low Register has too much action: Same as 2a, except that you have too tighten the truss rod now which is done by turning the allen wrench ---> clockwise --->. You will also have to be more careful as you can break a trussrod by overtightening it. But Epi truss rods are hardy and can certainly survive one full turn or even more as your bass is probably a virgin as regards truss rod adjustment.

3. After a combination of either steps 1 and 2a or steps 1 and 2 b you should have a relatively or even totally buzz free bass with good to reasonable action. If there is still some persistent buzzing at some places then raise the bridge a little. Raising the front stud will raise all strings, raising the lower hind stud more the D and G string, raising the upper hind stud more E and A. No radical set ups please! (Like one stud real low and the other two very high.)

4. (optional) Is all buzzing just on one string (while the other strings are buzz-free) and you have to raise the bridge considerably to make it go away even though you could stay much lower if it were just for the other strings? Try this then: I assume that on your Epi too the saddles for the four individual strings do not all have the same height, but that there are two higher and two lower ones. If the persistently buzzing string is on a lower saddle, then exchange that saddle against a higher saddle.
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Old 04-11-2011, 03:43 PM
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Aquateen-your advice is invaluable! This is my first shorty+I'm a noob after 40 yrs as a drummer. This bridge has bewildered me. Question:will the hipshot supuertone gibson replacement work on this allen woody bass w/ it being an archtop? Thanks bigbig. Peace&bass to all...
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:43 PM
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Aquateen, NICE! Gracias.

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Aquateen-your advice is invaluable! This is my first shorty+I'm a noob after 40 yrs as a drummer. This bridge has bewildered me. Question:will the hipshot supuertone gibson replacement work on this allen woody bass w/ it being an archtop? Thanks bigbig. Peace&bass to all...
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I've e-mailed em,will call if they're jammed up&can't get back.-"aunt bee just call the man!"lol
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