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Old 08-24-2011, 09:21 PM
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I tried to search but didn't know what to search exactly.

Anyways, i do a lot of tapping and when I tap on the higher frets, and 14-19, there seems to be another note playing from the opposite side of the string. I did a set up and it still happens. I'm sure it's been a problem with some others, but can anyone help me fix this?
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Some folks (like Victor Wooten) put a hair scrunchy (ponytail holder) behind the nut to reduce these kinds of harmonics.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:46 PM
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Its actually GRUV GEAR · FretWraps String Muters · MAKE LIFE GRUV not a scrunchie, but same thing. I'm not sure he is saying its coming from the headstock end.. not exactly the best description of the issue
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:25 AM
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Yeah sorry, never had this happen before. I let me try again.
When tapping, say the 14th fret, I will hear a note coming from the other side of the string, between the nut and the 14th, this only happens when I tap and it is noticeable through amplification.
Those mutes look like they would help but I'm wondering if I can get rid of it by other means
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It's because of the relief in the neck. You need to have the relief or you'd have fret buzz all over the place when playing normal fretted notes. You probably just never noticed the "back side" note before, but it is always there. I would agree that muting either with a scrunchie thing, (or with your fretting hand) should take care of the problem.
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:43 AM
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i do a lot of two handed tapping so i cant really mute it with the left, and i prefer not to have the string mute because i tap after some slap parts and stuff like that so i dont think id be able to put it on.
is there something i can do to the saddles/truss rod to kind of hinder these "back side" notes?
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The pickups shouldn't be picking up those backside notes, that part of the string isn't anywhere near the pickups.
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That string mute can be applied at varied pressures i believe, never used them, but check out the demo video at the bottom right of that site. If you just put it on the first or second fret, it barely mutes the strings, they still ring out quite a bit. You'd have to have it down to like, the 7th fret before it started to physically mute the string. It's apparently a studio tool for a lot of people, as it allows you to get a clean take quickly. I've heard good things about them. I'd say like F Clef Jef up there said, either a fret wrap of some sort or your hands. No other way to stop the string from vibrating in that direction.
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Just buy a hair scrunchy. Problem solved for 25 cents. Make sure its not incredibly small, or incredibly big
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Old 08-25-2011, 10:33 PM
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Ordered a set of those fret wraps. The I figure if I don't like em live I can always just use em to make the tapping parts in the studio a bit cleaner
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Let me know what you think of them. I've always considered them, but never actually decided to order them haha.
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Some folks (like Victor Wooten) put a hair scrunchy (ponytail holder) behind the nut to reduce these kinds of harmonics.
And some folks (like Fred Frith) put another pickup near the nut to amplify these kinds of harmonics!
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Very true, although I doubt the OP puts dried beans and rice on his instrument while hitting the strings with ball bearings...but to each their own.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:42 PM
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Very true, although I doubt the OP puts dried beans and rice on his instrument while hitting the strings with ball bearings...but to each their own.
Note to self: try that one day
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:27 PM
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Let me know what you think of them. I've always considered them, but never actually decided to order them haha.
so they came in and they are pretty cool but honestly after doing a side by side with a hair tie thingie, they are the same
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