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03-12-2010, 08:50 PM
| | | | Fender Geddy Lee - Maple Neck Straightening
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Hey guys,
I picked up a Geddy Lee Signature about a week ago, was told it was in great shape but just a bit of bow in the neck since it was never played or set up, etc.
Well, after a week of playing with it and finally taking it to a local shop, the truss rod is tightened down and there is still too much relief. Swapped to lightest available string weight and its better, but still not great.
Is the neck shot? The guy at the shop mentioned having it put on a neck straightener, but I've heard those are only for melting glue on fretboard and this is a single piece maple.
What do you think? Really starting to sweat over this one as i'll never be able to find the guy now... Lesson learned. Is there anything I can do now?
Thanks,
David |
03-12-2010, 08:54 PM
| | | | The truss rod is tightened all the way?
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Originally Posted by masturbasser  I seem to remember a picture that showed his bridge and it was the telltale multicolor ball ends of D'addario. | |
03-12-2010, 08:56 PM
| | | | Yep, sorry. Should have made that clearer. Its down all the way. Probably five full turns over the course of a week. Guitar shop agreed that there's no more adjustment left in it. |
03-12-2010, 09:06 PM
| | | | Take it to where you got it and tell them to fix it or replace or get your money back. I owned a Geddy Lee and the neck was always responsive to adjustments. And for the price they charge new for them which is a ripoff btw you shouldnt put up with it
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Originally Posted by masturbasser I seem to remember a picture that showed his bridge and it was the telltale multicolor ball ends of D'addario. | |
03-12-2010, 09:08 PM
| | | | oh wait you bought it second hand
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Originally Posted by masturbasser I seem to remember a picture that showed his bridge and it was the telltale multicolor ball ends of D'addario. | |
03-12-2010, 09:11 PM
| | | | Unfortunately, yes. Anyone have any experience with having it straightened by a luthier and have any insight into what it might cost? |
03-12-2010, 09:58 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canadia | | | You can work with a neck with too much "permanent relief", but I hesitate to share it openly as its risky and I would not want to be liable for someone destroying their neck and then blaming me. I'm PMing you...
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03-13-2010, 05:02 AM
| | | | Thanks for the tips guys. I'll definitely be looking in to some of those fixes.
New issue: I checked out the truss rod again after having the guitar check look at it and the head is somewhat mangled and the rod now creaks and "skips" i guess you could describe...
Sounds like he bent the rod? |
03-13-2010, 05:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA | | | Remove truss rod hex end. Find small washers ( #10 lock washers @ Lowes ) and install them onto truss rod end, try 4 washers to start. Reinstall truss end and tighten. Make sure neck is removed when doing this and turn slowly. This may give you enough extra turn to straighten your neck. Worked on both my 1975 Jazzes with slightly bowed neglected necks when I first bought the basses.... |
03-13-2010, 05:28 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Alabama | | | I would get in touch with fender and make them aware of the problem. Get their take on it. They may be ble to do more about it or give you some guidence. They have been dealing with them since they started making them :P
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03-13-2010, 09:27 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | Sometimes the truss rod needs a little help. You can use the Dan Erlewine method. Just be sure to loosen the nut first. And make small and gentle adjustments. I've fixed several necks this way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2HGn7c9_uo |
04-01-2010, 09:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Hampshire, USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by GLBass Thanks for the tips guys. I'll definitely be looking in to some of those fixes.
New issue: I checked out the truss rod again after having the guitar check look at it and the head is somewhat mangled and the rod now creaks and "skips" i guess you could describe...
Sounds like he bent the rod? | GLBass:
Any status on this? I've got what sounds like a similar problem with a Geddy Lee neck. Just wanted to see if you got it figured out. |
04-02-2010, 08:19 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York City | | Quote:
Originally Posted by GLBass Anyone have any experience with having it straightened by a luthier and have any insight into what it might cost? | I've had two different bass necks heat-straightened by my repair guy. One was a one-piece bird's eye maple neck with ebony fingerboard, the other was a multi-piece laminated maple neck with rosewood fingerboard. In the former case it was a fairly simple procedure and it cost me maybe $50-75. In the latter case it was more involved; he had to remove the fretboard before straightening the neck, then re-glue the fretboard. Might've cost $85-100. Bear in mind that both of these repairs were over 15 years ago, so consider inflation. |
04-02-2010, 08:33 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coeur d'Alene | | This is pretty common on the Geddy actually. If you do a search and dig around the forums a little bit, you'll come up with some other threads on the subject.
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Originally Posted by fenderbassman55 Remove truss rod hex end. Find small washers ( #10 lock washers @ Lowes ) and install them onto truss rod end, try 4 washers to start. Reinstall truss end and tighten. Make sure neck is removed when doing this and turn slowly. This may give you enough extra turn to straighten your neck. Worked on both my 1975 Jazzes with slightly bowed neglected necks when I first bought the basses.... |
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04-02-2010, 09:03 AM
|  | Quatre-cordes | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA /El Paso TX | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoover I've had two different bass necks heat-straightened by my repair guy. One was a one-piece bird's eye maple neck with ebony fingerboard, the other was a multi-piece laminated maple neck with rosewood fingerboard. In the former case it was a fairly simple procedure and it cost me maybe $50-75. In the latter case it was more involved; he had to remove the fretboard before straightening the neck, then re-glue the fretboard. Might've cost $85-100. Bear in mind that both of these repairs were over 15 years ago, so consider inflation. | wow those would be insane low prices now |
04-02-2010, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by xaxxat Sometimes the truss rod needs a little help. You can use the Dan Erlewine method. Just be sure to loosen the nut first. And make small and gentle adjustments. I've fixed several necks this way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2HGn7c9_uo | "How To Backclamp A Neck"
Not rocket science!
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04-02-2010, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Beej You can work with a neck with too much "permanent relief", but I hesitate to share it openly as its risky and I would not want to be liable for someone destroying their neck and then blaming me. I'm PMing you... | +1, GLbass have a PM.
Everyone's suggestions are not far off.
Got an update??
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04-02-2010, 11:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Delhi, India | | Quote:
Originally Posted by fenderbassman55 Remove truss rod hex end. Find small washers ( #10 lock washers @ Lowes ) and install them onto truss rod end, try 4 washers to start. Reinstall truss end and tighten. Make sure neck is removed when doing this and turn slowly. This may give you enough extra turn to straighten your neck. Worked on both my 1975 Jazzes with slightly bowed neglected necks when I first bought the basses.... | you mean rubber washers?
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04-03-2010, 10:22 AM
| | Quatre-cordes | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA /El Paso TX | | Quote:
Originally Posted by varunkapahi you mean rubber washers? | no metal washers. Rubber would be useless as they will be squashed by the compression |
04-03-2010, 10:39 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Delhi, India | | Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyl no metal washers. Rubber would be useless as they will be squashed by the compression | can you please explain me what to do with the washers? what kind of washers i want exactly and how would it help? i have a maxed out truss rod here too and if i start loosening it, it just gets very loose and starts coming out
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