Fixing neck dive on Explorer

b-bottom · #1 06-22-2010, 08:10 PM

What is the best way, if their is even is one, to fix the neck dive on my Epi Explorer?

dminer · #2 06-22-2010, 08:44 PM

http://www.headsupstrap.com/ Just out from Mr. Naylor at Reverend guitars. I haven't tried it but it looks like it would work if you don't mind the extra weight.

FunkMetalBass · #3 06-22-2010, 10:46 PM

1. Chop off part of the headstock and make it a 2x2 headstock. That's probably the biggest reason for the neck dive.
2. Replace tuners with Hipshot Ultralites or Gotoh Resolites
3. Glue fishing weights inside the control cavity.

Ric5 · #4 06-22-2010, 10:55 PM

My solution

bongomania · #5 06-22-2010, 11:10 PM

Steinberger hook:

beelzelboss · #6 06-22-2010, 11:12 PM

I remember a guy on here had a link some time ago about how to fix it. Long story short I believe all he did was put the nut to the strap on the back of the neck, like where the neck screws are.

Check this thread, it might help.

Thunderbird: Neck dive solved, Neck "tilt" worsened

Ric5 · #7 06-23-2010, 10:05 AM

big0bassdude · #8 06-23-2010, 10:15 AM

Peavey makes a 3 inch leather strap that totally eliminates the dive on my explorer. You can get it at musiciansfriend for like 11 bucks

b-bottom · #9 06-23-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dminer

http://www.headsupstrap.com/ Just out from Mr. Naylor at Reverend guitars. I haven't tried it but it looks like it would work if you don't mind the extra weight.

Interesting..

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Originally Posted by Ric5

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Originally Posted by Ric5

My solution

what in the heck are those things? It looks like you have pencils sticking out of the bass

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Originally Posted by big0bassdude

Peavey makes a 3 inch leather strap that totally eliminates the dive on my explorer. You can get it at musiciansfriend for like 11 bucks

Do you have a link for that strap?

darkstorm · #10 06-23-2010, 09:49 PM

Weights in control cavity seldom affect neck dive in any way in my experience. However a nice plush animal bear or whatever hanging onto the strap at rear of body allmost allways works. Since said plush animal helps pull down on isntrument for you.

The trick of moving front strap button to neck joint is annoying to me since it as often makes the bass want to tip over forward instead.

Wide straps help the most, along with allready mentioned fluffy helper hanging onto rear of bass from strap there

tobie · #11 06-23-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by big0bassdude

3 inch leather strap

This ^^^

It does not have to be Peavy's strap. There are nice ones on the market (http://www.activebass.com/item--EM.099-0665-006, http://www.fender.com/products//sear...tno=0990665006 etc.)

Mr M · #12 06-24-2010, 05:15 AM

I have a 6 string explorer bass.
To stop the neck dive you can do 3 things:
1. Decrease the weight of the neck-headstock (with e.g. lighter tuning pegs)
2. Increase the weight of the body (this is what Ned Steinberger did for the prototypes of Spector bass) or like the strap with weight that link was given (but why on earth would somebody 1. want to add weight to the bass, I don't buy that " 3" wide strap does not let you feel it" thing because I feel every gram on my shoulder no matter how wide is the strap, and 2. why pay that much money where you can easily attach some weight to the body side of a normal strap)
3. Change the witness point of strap (I mean where it is held on neck side). This is what I do, I have a small metal bar leaning towards the neck (and copying the shape of headstock), so the strap is attached almost on the 12th fret. The other pictures shown by other TB'ers have the same idea, and I'd go with that idea. The same idea is used on NS/Bolin basses.

Wearing a wide strap may help to keep it in position to some extent (because the wider the contact area of strap on the shoulder, the bigger friction force, keeping the bass in position) but it is not a pure remedy, of course IMHO

T-Bird · #13 06-24-2010, 11:53 PM

Hi.

Relocating the strap button and a 3" strap does it for me. On the Explorer and on the T-Bird.

Regards
Sam

big0bassdude · #14 06-25-2010, 08:26 AM

Do you have a link for that strap?[/quote]

Sorry just checked, they dont show it on the website but maybe if you give em a call they should still have it,If not its a simple leather strap that is unfinished on the back, that rough texture is what keeps the bass in place. Only issue I have found is on a long set it can get pretty warm on your sholder.

Billy K · #15 06-25-2010, 09:28 AM

http://www.italiastraps.com/
These are really nice people I got several straps from them.

dejavoodoo · #16 06-26-2010, 11:53 AM

...I have a TBird Fiver and it neck dives pretty badly. One thing you can try in lieu of any mods, is to set your strap a little longer than you want, and place the strap over the front of the body of the bass in the rear, which effectively shortens it when playing and holds the bass down in the back a bit. Not a perfect solution( the only real fix is to move the front strap point forward), but it works for me...
A wider, rougher strap helps too