fret board trussrod glued together?

[liquid sunshine]

about six years ago i hit the headstock of my neckthrough spector into my svt causing much for the fret board to be knocked loose from the neck. like an idiot i found gorilla glue squeezed a crap ton of it in there and clamped it together. aside from the glue bonding the trussrod to the neck and fret board i also had no idea it expanded so much. i am just looking for advice on how to free the trussrod. i did have one person heat an allen wrench in an attempt to soften the glue. i was also wondering how possible it would be to run a very small saw blade and cut the fret board off then replace it, but that sounds kind of crazy
any ideas would really help thanks

[Pilgrim]

I think you're in for a trip to a professional luthier and writing a sizeable check. It's a big job to undo a failed repair attempt. I'm not sure what (if anything) will make Gorilla Glue release. I did some quick Google searches and didn't find anything.

[liquid sunshine]

thanks. i wish i wasn't an idiot i put no thought into what i was doing. of coarse it had to be my neck through bass too
it an ns series from the 80's i don't know alot about it other than it was a grand brand new and i only payed 275 for it.

[Pilgrim]

You might spend some time searching for options via Google, but I'd suggest that if your luthier skills are basic enough that you made the mistake with the Gorilla Glue, you're going to need to go to a pro to get a good repair.

[JLS]

Originally Posted by Pilgrim

You might spend some time searching for options via Google, but I'd suggest that if your luthier skills are basic enough that you made the mistake with the Gorilla Glue, you're going to need to go to a pro to get a good repair.

I second the above.

[hdracer]

How do you go six years with out adjusting the truss rod?

[liquid sunshine]

i pretty much never play the bass. when i bought it it was the first time i ever had more than one bass and i now have four and still only play one 95% of the time

[T-Bird]

Hi.

A thin sleeve, custom made tube drill could be the answer (requires a lathe, tempering equipment and a whole lot of skill obviously), otherwise a partial FB removal sounds like the only choice.

Originally Posted by Pilgrim

You might spend some time searching for options via Google, but I'd suggest that if your luthier skills are basic enough that you made the mistake with the Gorilla Glue, you're going to need to go to a pro to get a good repair.

Thirded.

Regards
Sam

[202dy]

Originally Posted by liquid sunshine

about six years ago i hit the headstock of my neckthrough spector into my svt causing much for the fret board to be knocked loose from the neck. like an idiot i found gorilla glue squeezed a crap ton of it in there and clamped it together. aside from the glue bonding the trussrod to the neck and fret board i also had no idea it expanded so much. i am just looking for advice on how to free the trussrod. i did have one person heat an allen wrench in an attempt to soften the glue. i was also wondering how possible it would be to run a very small saw blade and cut the fret board off then replace it, but that sounds kind of crazy
any ideas would really help thanks

This is an interesting problem. If there was a lot of glue applied, there must have been a lot of squeeze out. It is also likely that the joint is stepped. Your comment on the foaming qualities of polyurethane glue would imply that the fingerboard is not level.

Fingerboard removal is pretty straight forward. Heat is applied and pallet knives are used to separate the fingerboard from the neck. The difference here is that white and yellow glues loosen up at 175-215 F. Polyurethane glue will take a bit more heat. Franklin International recommends starting at 280 F and moving up in twenty degree intervals. That's a good bit of heat. Wood ignites at 451 F.

Generating the heat is a bit of a trick. Some repair shops have and use heating blankets to apply heat. It is absolutely the best way to do it. However, they are expensive. Some folks use halogen or heat lamps. They are slower, adding to the boredom of babysitting the project. Speaking of babysitting, it is important to be vigilant during the heating process. Don't leave the room. Don't desert the workpiece. Occasionally test the joint to see if the palette knife can be inserted.

On this particular project, the glue at the body end will loosen up long before the nut end. It will be important to keep that area separated. Wax paper or aluminum foil can be inserted between the fingerboard and neck to prevent re-bonding the components.

As far as the problems at the truss rod nut go, it is impossible to comment without more details. Images would be a big help, too. However, it is likely that heat will be at least part of the solution.