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Old 01-06-2010, 11:13 AM
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I need to get some fretting files. I got an Amazon gift card for Christmas and I see you can order a variety of files from Grizzly via Amazon. Does anyone have experience with any of these files (they appear to be the same as the ones StewMac and LMII carry - 1/2 round crowning, 1/4 round for crowning/end dressing, and the 3-in-1 for all of the above). I get the impression that the 3-in-1 is a little tricky to use. It would seem to me that the 1/4 round file would be the best all-around choice, but maybe the 1/2 round files are better for recrowning? Can the 1/2 round files be used to dress the ends of the frets, or are they strictly for recrowning?

I suppose the biggest question is: are any of these worth getting, or should I look for a better option elsewhere?

http://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-H7514-...2796498&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-H7513-...2801454&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-H7512-...2801454&sr=8-4
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Image one: This is useful on the fingerboard extension over the body on acoustic guitars. It is much better when fitted with a smooth cut file. Or diamonds. Even at that, it is pretty tedious to use. Can you say, "hand cramp"?

Image two: No. This is not a fret file that luthiers use.

Image three: These are o.k. Sort of. It was state of the art until the nineteen seventies. Most of us use a three corner file with safe edges and/or a diamond file.

Choices one and three are prone to file chatter. As you pass the teeth over the fret they tend to jump and gouge the surface. A liberal coating of wax in the teeth is recommended. Even then, it is easy to create more work than you bargain for.

Stewart-MacDonald or Luthier's Mercantile have a much better selection albeit at a higher price. However, you only have to buy a good tool once. They will last you a lifetime and then some.
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Not sure what I would use the quarter round for, personally. I got a couple of fret end dressing files for free when I ordered a different crowning file from a guy on eBay (more on that in a sec), but I think if I had to consider buying one, I'd just get a set of needle files and grind down and polish one edge to be smooth -- same end result, and needle files are much cheaper.

For crowning, if you have the money, get a nice diamond one:
stewmac offset diamond file
They're incredible to work with.
I bought a diamond file on eBay for about a third of that price...however, despite being listed as having medium and jumbo sides, the medium was still not really well shaped for medium fretwire. "You get what you paid for" kinda applied there. When I did a fret job for a friend, I sprang for one of stewmac's standard double-edge files
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I got little chatter on handful of frets the first time I used them, but it doesn't take long to learn how to avoid that. And it was never anything that couldn't be buffed out with 220 sandpaper.

So, personally, I think the 1/4 round is pointless. But I don't do enough work to know if there are situations where guys rely on them.

If you're going to recrown frets, get a proper crowning file (standard or diamond), or go hardcore and learn how to do it the old fashioned way, with a normal (3 corner) file...

I suggest you skip the fret end dressing file until you've done some work and can tell if you need/want it. You might find that it's not worth a $15 file, or that you can't live without one.

As for the 3-in-1 -- I've never used one, but have always been tempted. I'd be concerned about how tightly the burs lock in place. And the offset handle is nice, but the offset diamond files are more helpful, I think. Most fretboards are radiused, so when you are near the ends of the frets over the body, you're filing at the body. So the straight end of a file is going right at the body -- and you just have to be careful (or cover that part of the body with chipboard or tape). The diamond offset files have a curve at the end, so it's easier to keep the cutting surface on the fret while you roll the file up and away from the body at the end.

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Old 01-09-2010, 08:43 AM
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I use the first one, I like it, works great. Never had any hand cramps while using it.
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So, personally, I think the 1/4 round is pointless. But I don't do enough work to know if there are situations where guys rely on them.

If you're going to recrown frets, get a proper crowning file (standard or diamond), or go hardcore and learn how to do it the old fashioned way, with a normal (3 corner) file...
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Hey dudes saw this a few times & im going to try it out myself going exactly as the video shows.I found 1 fret that is on an angle, i quess its from the press it wasnt pressed in straight & now bottoms out when hit harder.
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For crowning, if you have the money, get a nice diamond one:
stewmac offset diamond file
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