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Old 12-21-2007, 12:17 PM
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Is there a chemical solution that will remove this finish off my 05'Midnight Blue Jazz. I dont want to get into the sanding thing.......Can anybody clue me in ? I picked it up fairly inexpensive and I'm not crazy about BLUE.
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Unless Fender used nitrocellulose lacquer on this model there is no chemical stripper that will remove the finish. The accepted method is to sand or use heat. It is time consuming, hard work.
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Unless Fender used nitrocellulose lacquer on this model there is no chemical stripper that will remove the finish. The accepted method is to sand or use heat. It is time consuming, hard work.
Huh? Why couldn't he just use a heavy duty gel stripper?
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Huh? Why couldn't he just use a heavy duty gel stripper?
Because it doesn't work on those catalyzed finishes. I've tried. Even the very toxic methyl chloride stuff, the slower acting safety strippers. Try it for yourself.
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A heat gun, scraper and patience are your best options.

Personally I'm taking good care of my Midnight blue Jazz - there aren't many of them around.
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Huh? Why couldn't he just use a heavy duty gel stripper?
Because no matter what chemical substance he uses, it will never completely cut through a poly finish.

It'll take a good deal off, sure, but the rest would need to be sanded.
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Because no matter what chemical substance he uses, it will never completely cut through a poly finish.

It'll take a good deal off, sure, but the rest would need to be sanded.
That's the story. This question has been asked and answered a thousand times on various forums. Poly is essentially non-reactive to strippers.

Try heat and scraping - and elbow grease. Or save yourself 20 hours of work, get a different body and finish it the way you want to.
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Try heat and scraping - and elbow grease. Or save yourself 20 hours of work, get a different body and finish it the way you want to.
Yup, not matter what route you take to strip the finish, it's gonna take a while and it's gonna be tough.
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Belt sander, then Palm sander for tighter areas. It'll go fast. I have done it on a few guitars, and they are correct, that poly finish is bullet proof.
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If you just want to change the color, wet sand the finish for a tooth and shoot a different color.

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Belt sander, then Palm sander for tighter areas. It'll go fast. I have done it on a few guitars, and they are correct, that poly finish is bullet proof.
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works for me. just be careful working with that sander, it's all too easy to cut too much into the body shape and before you know it you've got more of a blob than a jazz.

but I am pretty ham-fisted when it comes to things in general. so I'm sure you won't have that problem
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works for me. just be careful working with that sander, it's all too easy to cut too much into the body shape and before you know it you've got more of a blob than a jazz.

but I am pretty ham-fisted when it comes to things in general. so I'm sure you won't have that problem
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If you just want to change the color, wet sand the finish for a tooth and shoot a different color.
This is probably your best bet and you don't run the risk of ruining the body lines by excessive sanding.

Edit: I have no idea what the "tooth" is.
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DONT USE STRIPPER!!! it has a tendancy to soak into the wood and effect the paint you put on top of it if its not properly removed

get some fine wet and dry out and take the gloss finish off it untill it looks "matt" then spray over it there's no need to take it down to the wood (unless its been painted using thermo plastic acrylic) if the paint is stuck you can use the origianl paint as your undercoat just make sure you degrease it before you paint it

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