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Old 05-24-2011, 05:52 PM
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i just wondering if handmade basses have the same risk to have deadpost like any other series bass or not
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My most expensive handmade boutique bass had a very noticeable deadspot (34" scale).

I find that my shortscales (30"-31") are less prone to deadspots than longscales.
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IMHO...deadspots occur because of the inconsistency of the wood, but, that can also be what give it its "character". No matter how much you spend...you will always run a chance of having "deadspots". The only basses that I have heard of without deadspots are made from materials other than wood...e.g., graphite. You can also help a wooden instrument by augmenting its construction with graphite, but, nothing is guaranteed. Just my .02....
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Handmade = some guy made it with dead spots.

Kidding to an extent--a premium builder may reject necks with dead spots, or they may have tricks for reducing dead spots. But a high price tag is no guarantee of less dead spots.
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IMHO...deadspots occur because of the inconsistency of the wood
Deadspots occur because resonant frequencies of neck wood are close to a few notes on the bass.
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Deadspots occur because resonant frequencies of neck wood are close to a few notes on the bass.
I stand corrected, sir. See, this is why I love hangin' out here...you learn something everyday!
Chris, I now remember reading that somewhere, several years ago. Thanks for the help!

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Deadspots occur because resonant frequencies of neck wood are close to a few notes on the bass.
Yeah, but the reason some necks have them "more" and others "less", or at different spots on the neck, is because of inconsistencies in the neck materials.
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Deadspots occur because resonant frequencies of neck wood are close to a few notes on the bass.
That makes sense; having owned several basses of varying pedigree, as it were, I'm not sure that a $3,000 bass is necessarily less prone to dead spots than is a $400 bass. The resonance of the neck is affected by headstock mass and the ratio of neck to body mass, as well as other factors, such as truss rod adjustments.

Rick 4001/4003s are prone to a dead spot on the 9th-10th fret on the D string. Fender basses (perhaps P's more than J's, although my reasearch sample isn't big enough to state that conclusively) are prone to dead spots on the G string between the 4th and 8th frets). My Warwick has a dead spot on the 7th fret E on the G string.

Dead spots do not manifest themselves as a lack of volume; they manifest themselves in a noticeable lack of sustain; much like a noise gate cutting in early.

I was able to almost completely remove the deadspot on my Rick 4003 by chanding over to lightweight tuners. Others have been able to remove or greatly reduce the dead spot(s) by tweaking the dual rods to move the resonance spot to a position unaffected by the fingering position relative to the frets.

My Warwick is not dead spot-free because I switched to 'cello tuning and it just went away.

So, to answer the OP's question, if a high-end builder takes into account relative mass of the headstock to the body and takes steps to reduce the dead spot, then yes, it makes a difference. Oddly, it strikes me that a more mass-produced manufacturer would have the liquid cash to resort to that sort of research project on a build design.

But, in the end, it seems that few builders, large or small, have advertised this sort of research to combat what is a certain problem with many basses.

/end ramble.
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Better to say that variations in the wood can cause a variation in the location of a dead spot.
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