Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 11-19-2007, 04:13 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
How flush the pickups sit in the body

Sign in to disble this ad
I don't know where to put this as it is to do with pickups but it also has something to do with setup of the bass.

My question is how flush should the whole pickup units sit in the cavity (this is a p-bass). Should they stick out slightly from the cavity or be flush?

They are flush atm but don't look right. I have never had a p-bass so don't know.
  #2  
Old 11-19-2007, 05:00 AM
Registered User

President, HittStreet.com; Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Missouri, USA
Send a message via AIM to Dave Muscato
They should not be flush at all. Not tall enough to be a thumb-rest, but definitely not flush. Here are some pics:


__________________
"Mama" Dave Muscato
(www.MamaDave.com)

Ristola 6er/MTD Artist 5er/Ibanez 6er fretless/Line 6 Variax 5er
--> Line 6 POD XT Live
--> Markbass LMII/Crown K2
--> Schroeder 1210L/21012L

My band
  #3  
Old 11-19-2007, 05:02 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
how would i stop them from currently being flush? They just sort of slip into the cavity..
  #4  
Old 11-19-2007, 05:16 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007


as you can see the pickup isn't mounted to the pickguard.
do i need a new pickguard?
  #5  
Old 11-19-2007, 06:03 AM
Registered User

President, HittStreet.com; Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Missouri, USA
Send a message via AIM to Dave Muscato
This may sound like a silly question, but have you tried using the pickup height adjustment screws to raise them up?

By the way, you may not need to raise them, if you're getting a sound you like now. Raising the pickups will give you more gain (and more magnetic pull on the strings), but it's really a matter of preference.
__________________
"Mama" Dave Muscato
(www.MamaDave.com)

Ristola 6er/MTD Artist 5er/Ibanez 6er fretless/Line 6 Variax 5er
--> Line 6 POD XT Live
--> Markbass LMII/Crown K2
--> Schroeder 1210L/21012L

My band
  #6  
Old 11-19-2007, 06:07 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Supporting Member
Pickups are generally "spring loaded" so that the mounting screws work against the "spring" so that the pickup is suspended in the cavity and immobile. The other reason is that the system is shock absorbing and tends to eliminate mechanical vibration. This is achieved by one of two methods. The first is simply to place a piece of foam under the pickup. The second employs springs. The screw is inserted through the pickup mounting ear and then into a spring. Then the assembly is screwed into the body. A variant uses surgical tubing rather than a spring.

Pickup height is measured in distance from the strings rather than from the top of the body to the top of the pickup. This makes sense because the proximity of the magnets determines the output of the instrument. If the pickup is not close enough to the strings the output is weak and tone suffers. If the pickup is too close the magnet pulls on the string dampening string movement and can cause unwanted overtones and a lack of sustain.

The spec for a Precision Bass is 1/8" and 3/32" bass and treble sides respectively measured from the top of the pole piece to the bottom of the string.
  #7  
Old 11-19-2007, 06:17 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
the pickups are led on foam atm.
  #8  
Old 11-19-2007, 01:31 PM
Pilgrim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Supporting Member
Just stuff new foam behind them. Easier than messing with those stupid springs. If you like springs, put them over the screw below the pickup and screw them in. actually, both foam and springs are probably good - no rattling.
  #9  
Old 11-19-2007, 01:35 PM
joelb79's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lansing, Michigan
Send a message via MSN to joelb79 Send a message via Yahoo to joelb79
Supporting Member
I would suggest if you cant locate the nice rubber foam to use a sponge and cut the piece you need. use more than needed as compressing against them is a good idea to reduce feedback.
__________________
"But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:" Matthew 6:20
  #10  
Old 11-19-2007, 01:47 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Union City, California
Send a message via AIM to meev992 Send a message via MSN to meev992 Send a message via Yahoo to meev992
I use springs, in addition to foam, so my pickups aren't going anywhere.

I'm OCD like that.
  #11  
Old 11-21-2007, 02:09 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
thanks all much appreciated
  #12  
Old 11-26-2007, 08:05 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: daytona beach, florida
Quote:
Originally Posted by 202dy View Post
Pickups are generally "spring loaded" so that the mounting screws work against the "spring" so that the pickup is suspended in the cavity and immobile. The other reason is that the system is shock absorbing and tends to eliminate mechanical vibration. This is achieved by one of two methods. The first is simply to place a piece of foam under the pickup. The second employs springs. The screw is inserted through the pickup mounting ear and then into a spring. Then the assembly is screwed into the body. A variant uses surgical tubing rather than a spring.

Pickup height is measured in distance from the strings rather than from the top of the body to the top of the pickup. This makes sense because the proximity of the magnets determines the output of the instrument. If the pickup is not close enough to the strings the output is weak and tone suffers. If the pickup is too close the magnet pulls on the string dampening string movement and can cause unwanted overtones and a lack of sustain.

The spec for a Precision Bass is 1/8" and 3/32" bass and treble sides respectively measured from the top of the pole piece to the bottom of the string.
I'm glad that you mentioned this because I'm currently having tone problems with my ibanez srx705 5-string. for some reason I could pluck the g string by itself and get this awful echoy sound from all the strings. I finally had enough and decided to strip it down to locate the problem...I removed my pickups and noticed that there were no springs. additionally, the pickups plainly sat in the cavities which had no insulation of any type(just a wood cavity). could these descrepancies be the reason for the unwanted echo sound in the strings??
  #13  
Old 11-26-2007, 08:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Union City, California
Send a message via AIM to meev992 Send a message via MSN to meev992 Send a message via Yahoo to meev992
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericmknight1906 View Post
the pickups plainly sat in the cavities which had no insulation of any type(just a wood cavity). could these descrepancies be the reason for the unwanted echo sound in the strings??
not sure, but Ibanez needs to step up their quality control
  #14  
Old 11-27-2007, 02:31 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Detroit MI
Quote:
Originally Posted by joelb79 View Post
I would suggest if you cant locate the nice rubber foam to use a sponge and cut the piece you need. use more than needed as compressing against them is a good idea to reduce feedback.
Foam tape strips sold for home insulation work well...comes in a variety of thicknesses and can usually be found at stores like Home Depot or Lowes.
  #15  
Old 04-06-2008, 09:25 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericmknight1906 View Post
I'm glad that you mentioned this because I'm currently having tone problems with my ibanez srx705 5-string. for some reason I could pluck the g string by itself and get this awful echoy sound from all the strings. I finally had enough and decided to strip it down to locate the problem...I removed my pickups and noticed that there were no springs. additionally, the pickups plainly sat in the cavities which had no insulation of any type(just a wood cavity). could these descrepancies be the reason for the unwanted echo sound in the strings??
i had the same problem with mine for a looooooong time lol

and here I thought it was because I couldn't play right
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:15 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.