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02-12-2007, 06:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia | | | How to swap Truss Rod Nuts?
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How exactly do you go about swapping out say, a vintage style Truss nut (Screwdriver adjustment), to a newer style Truss nut (Allen adjustment)?
I see you can buy them all seperately so there must be a way to just swap them out right? | 
02-12-2007, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennW Take one off, put the other one on.
I'd be a good idea to take the original nut to a hardware store or test at home with a couple of machine screws to determine what thread it is so you can be sure your new one has the same threads and will fit. Seems like they have 10-24 and 10-32, but I'm not sure. | So you basically have to loosen the truss rod to it's full extent and then it screws off? How does it not screw off when you provide relief to the truss rod? | 
02-12-2007, 08:56 PM
|  | I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize! | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada | | | Do you mean replacing a bottom of the neck style nut with the headstock style?
If so, buy a new neck. | 
02-12-2007, 09:12 PM
| | Well, thats like your opinion. Man... | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fife, Scotland | | | The allan adjuster on my MIM jazz is rounded. I was looking for a new neck but if I could somehow get it off and just replace the nut that would be cheaper. Just dont have any spare cash at the mo. Buying a house and all the other stuff that goes with it has kinda left me skint :s
I have tools at work I could use to get the nut to loosen. Just didnt realise this was an option. I have 3 basses all together so I have backups.
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02-12-2007, 09:33 PM
|  | I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize! | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada | | | Yup, if the nut is just rounded and you can get it off it just needs to be replaced. | 
02-12-2007, 09:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia | | | I'm just gathering info, I don't have a busted truss rod nut or anything, just wondering how you swap them. I was just curious how it stays on when you JUST provide relief to the truss rod, woulda thought it would just start unscrewing. | 
02-12-2007, 10:03 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, NJ | | | Friction keeps them from just unscrewing. They provide tension, and are nothing more than a nut that pushes up against the neck.
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02-14-2007, 09:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Brisbane, Australia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by tplyons Friction keeps them from just unscrewing. They provide tension, and are nothing more than a nut that pushes up against the neck. | So how hard do you have to screw the nut on until the friction kicks in? | 
02-14-2007, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by needmoney So how hard do you have to screw the nut on until the friction kicks in? | The truss rod on Fender's work by putting the neck under compression. It is basically a large nut and bolt. I think for all practical applications, you don't have to worry about it, you will have enough friction  | 
02-14-2007, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by seanm The truss rod on Fender's work by putting the neck under compression. It is basically a large nut and bolt. I think for all practical applications, you don't have to worry about it, you will have enough friction  | Cool, so basically tighten the nut until it's tight, and then when I turn anti-clockwise it'll loosen the truss rod without screwing off? | 
02-14-2007, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by needmoney Cool, so basically tighten the nut until it's tight, and then when I turn anti-clockwise it'll loosen the truss rod without screwing off? | If you are putting on a new nut, tighten it finger tight. Then adjust until the relief is correct. You don't want to tighten it more than you have to.
The truss rod is permanently embedded in the neck, it has a "bolt head" in the other end. The truss rod never moves, only the nut does. | 
02-14-2007, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by seanm The truss rod never moves, only the nut does. | RIGHT! That's all I needed to hear, now I completely understand! THANK YOU! | 
02-14-2007, 10:50 PM
| | Registered User Builder: Mailloux Basses | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia | | | Rick,
All that info works if you're dealing with a compression rod. A lot of companies out there use the new generation dual rods which has a nut welded on the truss rod itself.
In other words when you unscrew the nut, if it removes no problem you've got a compression rod. If it gets to the point that it's pretty stiff as you turn anti-clockwise and gets just plain hard to turn then stop. You've got a dual rod design and putting more pressure on the nut will break it. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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