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10-06-2011, 03:13 PM
| | | | i think i comitted one of the dumbest things imaginable ):
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Hello guys, long time ago since i last loged in...sorry for that hahah xD
ok here's the porblem, i really screwed up big this time, today i was trying to string my bass so i pulled put the winder cutter to make the process more effective, thing is i didn't quite read well before changing them so instead of unwinding them i just cut them all with the cutter ):, when i tried to put the new ones back they were just to low to sound at all!!, later when i looked at the neck i noticed it was sligtly bend on the opposite direction on what it should be!. the first thing i did was call o luthier in my area and he said it was fixeable, he would just need to calibrate the truss rod again. Now, i was wondering if one of you new serious the damage was, would the bass suffer any bad after-effect after it was repaired ? ): | 
10-06-2011, 03:16 PM
| | | | Did you catch a string in the face for your effort?
The guitar will be fine.
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10-06-2011, 03:24 PM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | It's just a setup, nothing to worry about. | 
10-06-2011, 04:29 PM
|  | <---Shinola Shite--^ | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manitoba, Canada | | | Shoot, I would try loosening the truss rod, noting how many turns I took out, tune up and set the relief again leaving one turn out and go from there. The tensioned strings should pull it into proper bow again if it was there before. Plus are they the same brand and gauge of strings? If not they could be putting less tension on the neck.
Besides this nonsense about not taking all strings off at once permanently damaging a neck is whack. How do you think a luthier does a fret job? He takes the strings off, sets the rod so the neck is flat and goes to work.
You have a minor inconvenience on your hands s'all.
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10-06-2011, 05:34 PM
| | | phew, thx guys i was really worried, no i didn't get any wound anywhere hahaha....and well i understand that nothing should happen if you unwhind them all before putting new strings, but since i just chopped them off with out even touching them i bacame kinda worried, a million thx for the help  | 
10-06-2011, 07:48 PM
| | | | i don't like the idea of "shocking" the neck by cutting all the strings while they're still fully tuned, but all i could see happening is the increased need for truss rod adjustment after re-stringing.
no harm, no foul.
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10-07-2011, 04:44 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Midwest Ohio | | | When I change strings, I usually remove and replace them one string at a time.
Just loosen the truss rod a little. (a quarter turn at a time), until things get back to where you like it. If it goes to far the other way,, just reverse the process.
Best advice I can give:?
Learn to do your own setups, you will save alot of time and money in the long run. Besides,, only you know how you like your bass to play right?
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10-09-2011, 11:13 PM
| | | | Some necks will backbow a little with all the strings off. And are back to fine and normal with the strings back on and to pitch. If you have one of the slimmer neck basses like Ibanez SR and ESP Ltd this is more likely to occur. Slim five peice versions of their necks are less prone to this though. But yes its bad idea to cut them when at tension. Besides the shock to neck, it also creates a real hazard depending which way the strings sling full force toward their achored end. Injuries can occur if struck by string whipping.
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10-09-2011, 11:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: www.KeithLennProject.com | | | Next time loosen a string by about five or six turns, cut the wire, restring one at a time...never take off all four strings before restringing unless you have neckwork to do...
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10-10-2011, 10:17 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Central FL | | | I take mine all off at once all the time to clean the fretboard etc. No big deal. You usually need to set up the bass after a string change any way. Personally cutting them under tension wouldn't be my first approach lol . You'll be fine. Put the new strings on, tune them up to pitch and set it back up. | 
10-11-2011, 12:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Madison, Wisconsin | | Quote:
Originally Posted by grendle I take mine all off at once all the time to clean the fretboard etc. No big deal. | Ditto. I play flats mostly, so by the time I'm ready for a new set, there's some fret cleaning to be done.
Worst case scenario here is it might take a few adjustments to get things just so after the shock of cutting the strings off at tension if the neck has to "settle in" a bit.
I'd second the recommendation to learn how to do your own neck adjustments. When I started out, I was afraid if I touched the thing I'd screw something up. Now I do all my own setups unless there's some fretwork to be done above and beyond a quick polish. I figure I've saved myself the price of a new bass over the years. | 
10-11-2011, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by matomat Hello guys, long time ago since i last loged in...sorry for that hahah xD
ok here's the porblem, i really screwed up big this time, today i was trying to string my bass so i pulled put the winder cutter to make the process more effective |
You knew better lol. | 
10-11-2011, 03:19 PM
| | | | Meanwhile, on another thread, there are players who claim they never have to tune because nothing ever moves..... | 
10-11-2011, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bredian Meanwhile, on another thread, there are players who claim they never have to tune because nothing ever moves..... | If I tune mine and leave it in a room on a stand, it would probably stay in tune until the seasons change, lol. In a 6hr practice I usually only have to tune once. Guitars about 3-4 times. A Steinberger (xl2) might never go out of tune, ever, even if you stand on it. Lol. If things are moving and you have to tune a lot, somethings wrong imo. | 
10-11-2011, 06:30 PM
|  | Anarchist Dalek | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Saint Louis, MO | | | you practice for 6 hours? man...i wish i was that lucky!
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10-11-2011, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by punkinfantry you practice for 6 hours? man...i wish i was that lucky! | Yeah we only get one day a week (sat . 4 to 10/11). Gotta make it count! Lol. We usually throw dinner in there too toward the end . | 
10-11-2011, 07:04 PM
|  | Anarchist Dalek | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Saint Louis, MO | | | we only practice sundays for like 3 hours...i need side projects!
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10-11-2011, 08:04 PM
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