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Old 09-03-2011, 11:44 PM
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Ibanez BTB Conversion

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My workhorse bass is a 2004 Ibanez BTB. It sounds great, and while I've always thought of myself as a guitar player, it seems I play bass more often these days. I'm starting to think I should just switch my focus to bass anyway. Here's the only bass I own:



I'd like to convert this bass to a 6-string, strung E-E, like a normal guitar, only an octave lower. I realize a lot of people may be opposed to the very principle of that, but it's not a new concept, and I want to try it out. The three primary issues are the tuners, the nut, and the bridge. I see two ways to go about this, and I'm torn.

This is the bridge:

I could order another one of those individual bridge and saddle assemblies for about $15+shipping. If I grind down all the inner bridge edges by about 1/3 of a mm and squish them all together, I'll be right where I want. I think this is a good, cost effective solution, though it makes some challenges in matching hardware.

This is the headstock:

Clearly there are a few nicks and dings up here. Like I said, it's a workhorse. These are the original Ibanez tuners in "Cosmo White." They're very difficult to find, but I've identified a set of 4 for $53+shipping.

I suppose I'll have to make the nut myself. I have some buffalo horn nut blanks in the garage anyway, and that's a skill I need to work on.

Miscellaneous:

Look at this thing. What a mess!

Whatever. I'll clean it up eventually. There are a couple more things to notice here too though. First off, this five string only has four strings. I'm missing the low B. I have to play it in church tomorrow morning. Who needs that string anyway though. Also, you can barely see a little black knob that should be matching the others. I loaned this bass to a friend for a while, and this is how it came back. Grr. Not a hard fix though, if I ever get around to buying one.

Repairs:

Check this out!


Believe it or not, I bought it like that. Someone knocked it over in the store. I won't say which store, but it's initials are GTRCNTR. Anyway, I ended up getting a pretty good deal on it. The sound was what mattered to me at the time, and this bass sounds exactly like what I think a bass should. Also, if I install another tuner, I really ought to reposition three more, so that it can continue to have the straight string alignment it was designed with. Ibanez put a thin quilted maple veneer on the headstock and gave it a trans black finish to match the body. I'm tempted to go an easier route with ebony to match the fretboard, but I don't know. The logo is a decal, not an inlay. I suppose I could make a new waterslide decal and recreate that if I wanted. But in the end, it's not going to be factory reproduction anyway, because the string spacing will be narrower than on a normal 6.

Just trying to figure out what to do, and see if anyone has any good ideas for alternate solutions. I'm open to replacing the tuners, bridge, and knobs altogether, but the string spacing at the bridge is 3", or .6" between individual strings. That's a tough bridge to find.

The cheap solution would be to buy that extra bridge/saddle, buy a cheap tuner and just find a spot for it, leave the injuries as they are, and let it relic/Frankenstein naturally over the next forty years or so. It's nice to have at least one guitar you don't have to worry about much. At the moment, I think I'm leaning that direction, but I don't know. All these repairs are certainly within my skill, and it could be pristine when I'm done. But there are a lot of other projects I care about more right now.

Any thoughts? I'm hoping some of you might be willing to share advice.
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Old 09-05-2011, 07:28 AM
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I also rock a BTB. Luv it.
The mono bridges are actuall routed into the body, you aren't going to be able to move them slight over to add another.
I would cleanup and repair this one, sell it, and get a used 6.
But if you still want to add another string and don't mind messing with the headstock, hipshot makes bridges with adjustable spacing. I got one for my backup bass because I wanted to widen the spacing a little. You might have trouble finding clear spots for the new screw holes so download their size diagrams and measure everything out.
6 String A Style Bass Bridge > Store > Hipshot Products
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:30 PM
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Wow! Didn't know those things were routed. I can't imagine it will make much of a difference though, since they're going to push up against one another. I'd just route the entire area, I assume. I'll have to get in there and take a look to see how it all works before I commit to anything.

I had actually looked at those bridges, and I like them a lot. Unfortunately, the smallest string spacing they make is .656. I need something like .6

Eventually, I'll get around to building a six string bass. I've already got a design. But first I have to finish a hybrid electric acoustic guitar I'm working on, and that's after I finish building my thicknessing sander, and a few other things as well. I'll get there eventually though.
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