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Old 10-05-2008, 05:42 PM
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Hey,

Recently put some power slinkies on my epi tbird and the intonation on my E (dropped to D) is quite sharp. I've moved the saddle as far back as I can and can't seem to get it close. Do I make a truss rod adjustment?
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:06 PM
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Nope, a truss rod will have very little, if any noticeable effect on your intonation (unless the neck is grossly backbowed or upbowed).

Is the E string sharp all the way up and down the fretboard? Or only in a few specific places?

What quality bass tuner are you using? Really cheap tuners can sometimes read the intonation incorrectly.

Are you sure that the string is contacting the saddle on the right point, and not a little farther forward than it's supposed to?

Did your last set of strings have proper intonation for the dropped D?

The reason you have to move the saddles back to get proper intonation is that the strings stretch a little bit when you fret them, raising the pitch slightly. Moving the saddles back effectively lowers the pitch enough to compensate for the stretch. A string that is tuned down to D from a standard E will stretch more and thus require more compensation, which your bridge may not be able to give (shown by the fact that you have the saddle adjusted as far back as it will go). You might be able to improve your situation by getting a heavier E string. The heavier string will require more tension, and thus will stretch less, requiring less compensation.

Also, lower action will require less compensation as the strings will have to travel a shorter distance to the fretboard when fretted, thus stretching less.

Get back to me on the questions I asked above and I can probably help a little more.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:12 PM
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I really dislike those 3 point Gibson / Epiphone bridges ...
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:29 PM
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The string seems to be sittin in the saddle right. I moved up to .110 for my E string.

I nenver checked intonation before I put the new strings on because I've never done a set up or anything before. My tuner is a 20$ solutions metro tuner.

Thanksfor the help.

I may try lowering the action a bit more.
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:32 AM
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I really dislike those 3 point Gibson / Epiphone bridges ...
I have a Korg DT-10 tuner, and I have the same problem. I have to reverse the E saddles to get it far back enough to intone correctly. Very annoying. I have considered replacing the bridge with a Wilkinson (?) new one designed to fit right into the 3-Point system, but its too expensive.

Why is it Gibson just dont care about bassists?
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:11 AM
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Good luck setting it up the way you want it Griev. Let us know how it turns out.
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Hipshot makes a great replacement for the "3 Point" bridges.

http://store.hipshotproducts.com/car...t_detail&p=264

Looks to be worth checking out.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:13 AM
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Hipshot makes a great replacement for the "3 Point" bridges.

http://store.hipshotproducts.com/car...t_detail&p=264

Looks to be worth checking out.
Has anyone with an epiphone ever used one of these?
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Old 10-08-2008, 11:04 AM
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Sorry for the double post. I lowered the bridge and finally have intonation!

And a much lower action. It all worked out.
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