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10-01-2008, 09:04 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: White Plains, Maryland | | | Intonation Problem Need Help!!!
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I am having a problem with setting the intonation on my Jazzbass, and it is driving me crazy  
I have never had this problem before with changing strings on this bass.
I have tried 3 sets of strings, 2 brand new sets and 1 barely used set. With each set I cannot get the E and G string intonation set at all, but the A and D strings are fine.
I am about ready to throw my Peterson strobe tuner out the window 
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Genz Benz / Bergantino / Valenti
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10-01-2008, 11:07 AM
| | | | strings too close to pickups maybe? |
10-01-2008, 11:21 AM
|  | Bass lines like a big, funky giant | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southern MN | | | More description, please.
Can you tune the open E and G to their respective notes?
If so, what happens when you fret each string at the 12th fret and check it with the tuner:
- always sharp and the saddles are already as far towards the strap button as they will go?
- always flat and the saddles are already as far towards the neck as they will go?
- can't get a consistent reading on the tuner - sometimes flat and sometimes sharp without even moving the saddles? |
10-01-2008, 11:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: White Plains, Maryland | | | All strings tune to their respective notes open.
A and D string tune and intonate perfectly.
E and G tune perfectly open but will not intonate at the 12th fret. Both are flat and both saddles are towards the neck as far as they can go without coming off of the screw, and are still flat.
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Genz Benz / Bergantino / Valenti
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10-01-2008, 11:33 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia Beach, VA | | | Are you setting your "witness points" at the individual bridge saddles?
Riis
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10-01-2008, 11:36 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia Beach, VA | | | Forgot to ask...are the 12th fret harmonics spot-on as well?
Riis
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10-01-2008, 11:55 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cottage Grove, St. Paul suburb | | | Removing the springs on the E and G might give you enough room. |
10-01-2008, 11:56 AM
| | | | I had trouble intonating my Stingray until I raised the action a little bit. |
10-01-2008, 12:22 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: White Plains, Maryland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennW  If this is on the "custom jazz bass" listed in your profile perhaps the bridge is mislocated. See if you have 18" from the 12th fret to the bridge mounting screws. I'm guessing the distance is greater than that (assuming a 34" scale and Fender style bridge).
Longer screws should help if you don't want to move the bridge. |
Distance is 18 inches.
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10-01-2008, 01:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: White Plains, Maryland | | | OK, went back and checked everything again, just to double check my settings and to see if I missed something.
String height / action has not been changed.
Good break angle behind saddles.
Distance from the 12th fret to the bridge mounting screws is correct.
All 3 sets of strings are the same gauge as was originally on the bass, 45-105
Even tried another tuner. Still the same problem. this one has definitely got my puzzled.
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10-01-2008, 01:16 PM
| | Bass lines like a big, funky giant | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southern MN | | | Hmm...tuners (on the headstock) slipping?
Loose neck joint? |
10-01-2008, 01:26 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: White Plains, Maryland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by scottbass Hmm...tuners (on the headstock) slipping?
Loose neck joint? |
Scott....I have checked every nut and bolt on this bass. 
This bass has gone through a few string changes before and I have never had a problem with the setup until now.
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10-01-2008, 01:33 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Spector Basses | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Colorado | | | If you move the saddles back, does the intonation go way flat or stay somewhat the same?
Pics of the bridge and the nut and headstock may also help.
Edit: They're the same brand you use before, right? (Like Sunbeams, or Tru-Bass 88s etc.)
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Last edited by Captain_Arrrg : 10-01-2008 at 01:38 PM.
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10-01-2008, 02:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: White Plains, Maryland | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Arrrg If you move the saddles back, does the intonation go way flat or stay somewhat the same?
Edit: They're the same brand you use before, right? (Like Sunbeams, or Tru-Bass 88s etc.) |
Moving the saddles makes the intonation go flatter.
I have used 2 sets of LaBella's and 1 set of Alleva Coppolo strings.
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Allen
Genz Benz / Bergantino / Valenti
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10-01-2008, 02:45 PM
| | | | If it's a different brand of string, it will make a difference--Some brands run sharp on the e string of my Danelectro |
10-01-2008, 07:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: new jersey | | | how bout you try adjusting the other way? my p-bass's e string is the furthest away from the pup. just try it, you never know. |
10-02-2008, 06:38 PM
| | | | general rule, tune open string, fret string at fret twelve, move saddle in direction of tuner needle when fretted.
if fretted note is flat, move saddle toward neck
try also switching or combining pickups or use tuner mic in front of low-volume amp.
if bass is active, try new battery?
it seems as tho the nuance of intonation is not being transfered as a nuance of signal to the tuner, does that make sense? | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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