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bigsnaketex 02-08-2013 01:25 PM

Intonation Shuffle
 
So tell me, how do YOU intonate your bass?

Slowgypsy 02-08-2013 01:36 PM

One string at a time... unless I'm feeling frisky :D

Scott in Dallas 02-08-2013 04:08 PM

With a screwdriver and the inTuna app on my iPhone.

Bassist4Eris 02-08-2013 04:10 PM

Using a Peterson Strobo-Stomp, with the simple (and admittedly imperfect) method of comparing the 12th fret note to the harmonic.

Zooberwerx 02-08-2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassist4Eris (Post 13852000)
Using a Peterson Strobo-Stomp, with the simple (and admittedly imperfect) method of comparing the 12th fret note to the harmonic.

Same here. I also check the 5th fret once intonated. Tip: make sure all parameters are within spec before attempting to intonate: nut slot depth & shape, relief, witness points set properly, string height (should be close, anyway).

Riis

Pilgrim 02-08-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassist4Eris (Post 13852000)
Using a Peterson Strobo-Stomp, with the simple (and admittedly imperfect) method of comparing the 12th fret note to the harmonic.

^^This...open string, 12th fret, harmonic. That's all. It's plenty close enough for my playing.

Stilettoprefer 02-09-2013 03:14 AM

Carefully

Hobobob 02-09-2013 03:16 AM

I get drunk and throw screwdrivers at my bass. That's usually when I pass out. Works every time :)

Nashrakh 02-09-2013 03:35 AM

As mentioned, open, 12th fret, harmonic.

A bit trickier on a fretless mind you :hiding:

walterw 02-09-2013 01:22 PM

Sort of.

Open or harmonic, 12th fret.

Open is preferable, since you don't spend all night playing bass by chiming 12th-fret harmonics.

Pilgrim 02-09-2013 01:32 PM

99% of the time I settle for open string and 12th fret.

mongo2 02-09-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassist4Eris (Post 13852000)
Using a Peterson Strobo-Stomp, with the simple (and admittedly imperfect) method of comparing the 12th fret note to the harmonic.

This, and then I check it the 19th fret as well.

megafiddle 02-09-2013 02:14 PM

By ear, against a major chord from a properly tuned keyboard or guitar.
Keeping the open string also tuned against the chord.

JoeWPgh 02-09-2013 02:27 PM

I do mine by ear. 5th fret harmonic to the 12th fret and it's harmonic on the next lower string. For the G, I use the 10th fret on the A string to the G's 12th fret & harmonic

geddeeee 02-09-2013 02:28 PM

I would never use the harmonic on the 12th fret. Too many overtones give a false reading on your tuner. You'll be there far longer 'chasing' the intonation!!!

Stick with the tried and tested fretted 12th and open string. Checking on the fretted 19th is also a great way to make sure that the intonation is spot on.

JTE 02-09-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by geddeeee (Post 13855976)
I would never use the harmonic on the 12th fret. Too many overtones give a false reading on your tuner. You'll be there far longer 'chasing' the intonation!!!

Stick with the tried and tested fretted 12th and open string. Checking on the fretted 19th is also a great way to make sure that the intonation is spot on.

If your strings are in good shape, the 12th fret harmonic is the exact octave of the open string. You are simply eliminating the lowest fundamental. There are no more overtones with the harmonic than the open string.

An advantage of the harmonic is that it's a higher frequency than the open string. Almost every tuner works by counting vibrations and comparing them to a quartz. Usi g a higher frequency for your reference in effect gives the tuner a higher sampling rate. That will give better accuracy than sampling 55 Hz for the reference and 110 for the fretted test note.

John

geddeeee 02-09-2013 04:56 PM

Thanks for the theory lesson.. LOL!!

I've been playing 32 years and I did start off with the harmonic method. As I got better equipment and a strobe tuner, I found that I spent three times as long trying to get the intonation right. Even after I nailed it, the intonation seemed slightly 'off' when playing.
I switched to the 'fretted' method, and I seem to have better intonation.

I only ever intonate with brand new strings and when I have changed gauges.
If I am fitting the same gauge, there is no need to bother with the intonation. It's usually spot on.

If the harmonic method works for you, then great... Each to their own.

Cheers!!

bigsnaketex 02-09-2013 09:17 PM

I was just wondering. I find getting my basses intonated correctly a bit trickier than my guitars. I start with open strings and 12th harmonic - then I check the fretted 12th. Then I move to the 3rd and 15th. Then the 5th and 17th and it seems I always end up "splitting the difference". I've only had one bass in my entire life that was spot on up and down the fretboard.

BritFunk 02-11-2013 11:13 AM

Hmmm...
 
Friends,

Maybe I'm just uptight (or delusional) but on my 24-fret basses I check the 12th fret harmonic against the 12th fret note to get things close, then check the 12th fret harmonic against the 24th fretted note. I have found that many times a little more tweaking is in order to be certain the notes are all in tune.

It might be overkill and/or might not make any difference in the real world, but I play chords pretty often and the bass just seems to play in better tune all the way up the neck using this technique.

YMMV.

~ Kurt

Hobobob 02-11-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsnaketex (Post 13857505)
I was just wondering. I find getting my basses intonated correctly a bit trickier than my guitars. I start with open strings and 12th harmonic - then I check the fretted 12th. Then I move to the 3rd and 15th. Then the 5th and 17th and it seems I always end up "splitting the difference". I've only had one bass in my entire life that was spot on up and down the fretboard.

This is why the Buzz Feiten system was invented.


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