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Old 09-24-2007, 10:06 AM
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jackson pro bass retoration advice

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hi,
ive just recently bought a jackson pro bass for a steal
as a side project but the bass has a lot of ''cosmetic'' problems so i was wondering if any1 could give me some
advice on how to restore the following problems?

1-the bass has a crack on the body by the tone knobs
running round to the backplate where the electrics are
its not very deep but to deep to sand out any advice on how too fill it in?

2-the neck has a worn patch on the back of it round about by the 9th frett where the laquer has worn away is it safe to sand the back of the neck and then ree laquer it?

3-the body itself has lots of scratches on it and mild dents does any1 know the best way to strip the body down saftley
and what kinda paints shud i use?

4- a couple of the machine heads are bent but they have the jackson logo on em where could i get some jackson machine heads from pls?

thats all really its truly a beutifull bass and im proud to own it once its finished if there is any1 wwho can help me i would be much abliged thankyou!
fresh128
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:03 PM
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hi,
ive just recently bought a jackson pro bass for a steal
as a side project but the bass has a lot of ''cosmetic'' problems so i was wondering if any1 could give me some
advice on how to restore the following problems?

1-the bass has a crack on the body by the tone knobs
running round to the backplate where the electrics are
its not very deep but to deep to sand out any advice on how too fill it in?

2-the neck has a worn patch on the back of it round about by the 9th frett where the laquer has worn away is it safe to sand the back of the neck and then ree laquer it?

3-the body itself has lots of scratches on it and mild dents does any1 know the best way to strip the body down saftley
and what kinda paints shud i use?

4- a couple of the machine heads are bent but they have the jackson logo on em where could i get some jackson machine heads from pls?

thats all really its truly a beutifull bass and im proud to own it once its finished if there is any1 wwho can help me i would be much abliged thankyou!
fresh128
You've got some decisions here...The value of this bass is going to be way less than the value of any time you put into it. That's just a fact and you need to know that. Next, you'll have to determine how much you want to do to the instrument in relation to the level of expertise you have and the tools onhand. You've mentioned several finish issues and these pose the largest problem in getting right. The reason I give you these caveats is that there are more piles of parts sitting in closets as "unfinished" projects than there are people to finish them. Don't let it happen to you and you can start with some good planning.

1. A crack could be in just the finish or it could be structural. The only way to determine it's structural is to look inside the cavity to see if the crack comes through the back. If that's the case, get ready for some repair work. If it's just finish, it's a lot better.

2. Let's clear this up now and state flatly that the bass doesn't have a "lacquer" finish. I have a Jackson Pro here at the house and it's finish is all polyurethane. That means tough! It can be removed and should be if any other finish is going to be used. It's possible to scuff poly to the point that another layer of poly can stick but it won't be a strong chemical bond because these coatings don't "burn" into the previous layers like lacquer. If you want a true lacquer finish, you'll have to remove all of the poly finish down to the sealer. LOTS of work there but you be the judge.

3. Stripping can be done with chemicals (acetone will begin to soften some poly's) but once begun, you've got to finish it or face a really botched finish. You can also sand the finish off but only do that if you use filters to breathe. The dust is killer. I've even had success with heat and peeling the finish but that takes a lot of technique to keep from damaging the body. I don't recommend it unless you really take your time.

It is possible to get a good "rattle can" finish but it takes patience and some technique to make this method work well. If you do lacquer, try Reranch.com - they have a best selection of cool colors and finishes. You can use auto paint but preparation should be extensive, including cleaning the body very, very well before spraying. A professional finish takes pro equipment - compressors, guns, etc. along with pro products. These aren't inexpensive and you would probably only want to invest in them if you want to do more of this type of work.

4. Jackson would be the only way or perhaps finding some on ebay.

Hope this helps
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:28 PM
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hi cheers

hi mate thankyou for that advice it was much abliged erm in relation to the crack yes it does go down into the cavity but not very far!
how am i going to go about fixing that please?

erm the fretboard like i said has a spot on the back about the size of a little finger print where the polyurthene has been rubbed away do i have to sand the whole neck to put that right or can i patch it up at?

cheers for replying
freshmonkey

p.s
i never intend to sell the bass so it is worth my time i think its sacralidge to do so i just want it to look good cos it plays like a wet dream especially with a set of elixers on it!
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:13 AM
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I can't think of anything to do with the spot on the neck short of a refinish. If it's just a spot where the finish has cracked out and popped off, you can stabilize it with clear fingernail polish. Look at the ingredient list and get the polyester type. That matches the original finish better. On natural necks, I've done this and made the repair disappear with some sanding and polishing. If the spot is too big, it will take some time to seal it up and get enough of the polish built up to level and polish out.

The crack can be stabilized by dropping some water-thin superglue in the crack. Use a thin pipette of some sort to carefully fill the crack. Don't worry - the glue will find it's way into the voids. Let it cure and it won't go anywhere. It won't look great on the front because the crack will still be visible but it won't come apart any further.
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:25 AM
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thankyou very much i will try those things it wa much apreciated thanx
fresh 128
p.s
this is the bass n crack if u were wonderin! cheers its a link tho sorry lol
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWN:IT&ih=011
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:30 AM
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Wow! Nice bass.
Kind of strange seeing all the Charvel/Jackson basses on here lately. It's great!
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:36 AM
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thankyou it only cost me £80 would you believe it just needs a bit of work on it but its worth it!
p.s
this might sound silly but whats the difference between charvel and jackson?
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:39 AM
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i dunno which one to play now my ibanez grx or the jackson im sooooo confused but to be fair i think it,ll have to be my jackson its my baby atm lmao
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:23 AM
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duuuuhhhuuhhhh i mean sr500 not grx duuuuuuh my brain not screwed in today lol
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:27 AM
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Here's the scoop on the Jackson/Charvel connection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charvel
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:40 AM
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wow cheers m8 insightfull i now want an original charvel (i wish lol)
thanx for the info
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