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08-06-2008, 02:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San diego | |  KAHLER BASS TREMOLO
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hey everyone, im thinkin of putting a Kahler Hybrid 7410 bass tremlo on my Schecter 004 bass these are the pics :-  
the questions are:
how much would they charge to carve out some of the body to fit in the tremlo and
do i have to change the nut... my bass has the Brass nut
and... its gonna look pretty cool huh |
08-06-2008, 02:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Orlando | | | you'll have to have the neck reinforced.
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08-06-2008, 02:35 PM
|  | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bl2112  you'll have to have the neck reinforced. | NO! You will not, thats just not true. Your neck will be fine.
You can keep the brass nut, but a graphite, or derlin(slipstone, to stewmac) would be better, for holding tune, the strings are less likely to snag on the nut this way.
Also of note, the lighter the strings you use, the more the the range on the pulls, I use Thomastic Jazz rounds on one, and they have a very high range.
The strings will stay in tune well, once you break them in. Breaking them in is easy though, just use the bar quiet a bit after installing new strings, and keep retuning every now and then, they'll hold pitch in no time.
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08-06-2008, 03:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San diego | | | os there any other tremlo bars u guys would reccomend/? |
08-06-2008, 03:21 PM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by drnkfstdiedrunk os there any other tremlo bars u guys would reccomend/? | Hipshots are supposed to be very good, but I have no experience with them. Also if you go with Kahler, make sure to get the rear facing saddles, that bass dosn't seem to have a great amount of room behind the bridge.
Edit: Looking again, if you go with Hipshot, the bass will look closer to stock, the bridge seems to be a similar style to Hipshot.
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08-06-2008, 06:19 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San diego | | yeah well what do u guys think of puttin one on the ibenes SR 535 
or the Cort 
im lookin for ideas and which one it would be easier to put in on to |
08-06-2008, 06:28 PM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | | I don't think it will fit the Cort Curbow well.
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08-06-2008, 06:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New London, CT | | | ive heard of trouble with the strings falling off the rollers on the bridge, if theres a system similar to floyd roses guitar tremolos, that would solve it.
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08-06-2008, 06:34 PM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkzepphish ive heard of trouble with the strings falling off the rollers on the bridge, if theres a system similar to floyd roses guitar tremolos, that would solve it. | I have never had that happen.
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08-06-2008, 08:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San diego | | | well... do u guys think itll be a good idea to put it on the Shecter?? i dont wanna mess it up.. tell me which one and ill put pics and vids of it up when its done |
08-06-2008, 10:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Western Arkansas | | | Just my two cents worth; if you haven't bought the bridge yet, don't. If you have bought it, send it back.
You have a nice bass, learn how to get the tone / pitch out of it with your hands. (Pre-bend & release!)
If you just have to have a bass with a tremolo buy a cheap bass and have it installed. It should sell well on E-bay if you discover you don't like it & you can keep your old favorite.
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08-06-2008, 10:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tacoma, WA | | | I had a Kahler Hybrid installed on a Fender Jag. Installation cost me 215 dollars at my local music shop, they did a great job...all they have to route out is a box underneath the bridge section just deep enough to give the rotating part clearance to move.
I love mine. Its loads of fun, and when people see a whammy on a bass it blows their minds.
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08-06-2008, 10:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tacoma, WA | | | The problem with Hipshot trems is you have to rout out a lot of the wood on the back to make rooms for the springs.
The Kahler system is perfect for basses because it requires minimal wood removal which keeps the mass of the instrument intact for the most part.
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08-07-2008, 04:54 AM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by zagralin_arf The Kahler system is perfect for basses because it requires minimal wood removal which keeps the mass of the instrument intact for the most part. | Plus that the most of the bridge is hard bolted to the bass, no floating.
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08-07-2008, 04:57 AM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Skaggs You have a nice bass, learn how to get the tone / pitch out of it with your hands. (Pre-bend & release!) | Can you pre-bend a harmonic half an octave?
How about a chord?
An open note?
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08-07-2008, 08:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, NY | | | All i know is that is pretty expensive, you will have to ask your local shop about what they charge, I bought my bass second hand with a tremolo already installed. I remember looking for prices before hand and seeing $400 for a new one!
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08-07-2008, 08:36 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montreal,Canada | | I would love to do it with my peavey, but it is expensive.
Still I'd love to see if I could do squeals on bass, artificial harmonic then whammy  |
08-07-2008, 10:21 AM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | $220 from here, http://www.wammiworld.com/u7410.html
As for squeals, yes you can, but nowhere near as extreme as a guitar.
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08-07-2008, 01:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San diego | | | i tune to C... if that makes a diffrence |
08-07-2008, 06:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Western Arkansas | | Quote:
Can you pre-bend a harmonic half an octave?
How about a chord?
An open note?
| Sure, on my Strat.
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