Locktite and coated bolts?

Shroom · #1 09-29-2007, 09:54 AM

So I've hear Schaller straplocks have a problem with the nut coming loose off the bolt and everything flying apart, so I was thinking of bonding mine with some locktite or JB Weld or something so they're on there permenantly. Problem is, mine are black, which means they have some kind of paint or enamel or something which I think might interfere, considering locktite is meant to bond metal. Does anyone know if this is something to worry about, and if it is, are there any solutions?

theshadow2001 · #2 09-29-2007, 10:17 AM

I'm not sure if the glue bonds the wood and the metal. I believe they are a tricky pair to get to glue together. I think the idea behind it is that the when the glue hardens it provides a more firm setting for the threads of the screw to grip thus getting a better hold in the pilot hole than if it were just wood.

ducatiman · #3 09-29-2007, 02:32 PM

loctite will, uh, lock tight provided the items being treated are clean and free from contaminants...oil, grease, etc. remember, its primarily an automotive product. coated hardware should be no problem. shadow2001 has the right idea.

remember, theres blue (medium strenghth) and red (heat required for removal). for use with guitars, i think red may be a bit much.
------------duc

Johnny Crab · #4 09-29-2007, 08:20 PM

Not sure of how Schaller's are assembled but the part you refer to seems to act as the circlip does on a Dunlop. I'll check our guitarist's as he uses 'em.

What Crab does:

One
JB Weld in the hole in the bass body AND a bit on the screw thread. Install peg/strap button into bass. Remove excess JB Weld using cloth, papertowel, mild dish soap. Let dry.

Two
For the circlip and probably the Schaller threaded part, clear silicone glue lightly applied.

The clear silicone also keeps the 1/4" jacks on basses from getting loose such as this one that Crab kept finding loose.

Shroom · #5 10-01-2007, 07:27 PM

So far it looks like Johnny Crab is in the lead on advice! Thank you all for trying, though.

But yeah, I'm not talking about the screw and the hole in my bass. i got that part taken care of. I'm talking about the part that actually holds the strap, and is composed of a threaded section, a washer, and a nut.

And I don't know anything about silicone glue or where to get it, so I guess I'll go with locktite or JB Weld unless anyones got a better suggestion?

**ExaltBass** · #6 10-01-2007, 07:45 PM

Loctite works great on these. I have done it. Just apply a little dab and it will keep them tight. Personally, I have switched to the Dunlops. The retaining ring makes me feel more secure for my 'babies'

Shroom · #7 10-02-2007, 12:15 PM

saWEET! Okeedokee then, locktite it is. As for ze Dunlops, I'll wait till i get a another bass before I get another set of strap locks.

Pilgrim · #8 10-02-2007, 12:33 PM

Just use the Loctite blue, NOT the red. You may want to take them apart someday.

dmilt23451 · #9 10-03-2007, 09:48 AM

i have been using the schallers for years now on all my bass's, i have had the unfortunete event of having the nut fly off as well...but the best solution i have found it just take a socket and rachet and tighten them down as best you can...especially with leather straps it will hold real tight no need to permenatly affix them with locktight