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02-09-2008, 04:34 PM
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The past two guitar shops I've been to have said that my flatwound strings are putting too much stress on my MIM P bass neck, that the neck is too thin for flatwounds. They've had to turn the truss rod a total of ten times in the past two visits to make the neck straight. What's the deal? |
02-09-2008, 05:57 PM
| | | | This seems to differ from the experience most people have. I've not personally put flats on a P, but the P neck is fatter than the J, and my '73 J (back in '73) had flats! When Ps first came out, there was no such thing as rounds.
There is some variance in the tension that flats have. As I recall, Rotosound tends to have the most, and TI (assuming you consider those "real" flats) have the least. |
02-09-2008, 09:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX | | | These are D'addario Chromes, and tons of people on these forums use them on P's. I really don't see what the problem is. Ten full turns of the truss rods in a month! Apparently, the normal amount of turning is just like, maybe half a turn from what they've told me. |
02-09-2008, 11:26 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | Sounds like there's an unusual problem with the neck or wood on that bass. P-basses and flats are made for each other, and Fender flats are among the highest tension strings.
A P neck should be able to work with ANY string made. |
02-10-2008, 06:35 AM
|  | Supporting Curmudgeon Moderator | | Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Suburban Chicago, IL | | You might want to be sure they didn't break your truss rod. Ten turns?!?!
Remind them that MIM fretless Js come stock with Fender flats.
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02-10-2008, 06:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY | | | Stock flats on a Fender are very high tension. I had to make several adjustments, but nothing that extreme. I use TI Jazz Flats. My neck is very stable and my instrument stays in tune with great intonation.
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02-10-2008, 11:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX | | | I trust these guys, though. I feel like if they had broken it they would tell me.
It might be a problem with the neck, though. I have had problems with this bass before. A LOT! Like, three more threads worth of problems. It might just be defective. |
02-10-2008, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyDuty  You might want to be sure they didn't break your truss rod. Ten turns?!?!
Remind them that MIM fretless Js come stock with Fender flats. | The heaviest gauge of flats Fender makes too. My Pbass deluxe has a jazz neck, and wears Fender flats, and I've never had a problem.
Must be something wrong with this particular neck, I'd have it checked out. Maybe a broken truss rod? |
02-10-2008, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Beefbass The heaviest gauge of flats Fender makes too. My Pbass deluxe has a jazz neck, and wears Fender flats, and I've never had a problem.
Must be something wrong with this particular neck, I'd have it checked out. Maybe a broken truss rod? | I personally don't think the truss rod is broken, I mean, the neck will get straight, it just takes quite a bit. Maybe it just doesn't work as well. I'll have to get a third opinion. |
02-11-2008, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Wootsticks These are D'addario Chromes, and tons of people on these forums use them on P's. I really don't see what the problem is. Ten full turns of the truss rods in a month! Apparently, the normal amount of turning is just like, maybe half a turn from what they've told me. | I own two MIM P basses both with med chromes on them. One is a 50's classic with a maple neck. I didnt have to adjust the neck at all from the shop i bought it from. It had Fender rounds on it when i bought it and i changed then to chromes an hour after i got it home. The neck is maple and is perfect never have touched it in the few months i have owned it.
The other is a used MIM P i picked up and after a few pup mods etc put a fresh set of Chromes on it. It took a little ...very little adjustment to the neck to get it perfect and it also has stayed right where i set it months ago. You have a bad neck or a screwed up truss rod...no doubt.
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02-11-2008, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wootsticks The past two guitar shops I've been to have said that my flatwound strings are putting too much stress on my MIM P bass neck, that the neck is too thin for flatwounds. They've had to turn the truss rod a total of ten times in the past two visits to make the neck straight. What's the deal? | After more thought...ten turns means either that the neck has big internal problems or you have a broken or defective truss rod, or the nut is stripped out and isn't tightening. You need to remove the nut from that truss rod and see if you can visually identify any problem with the nut or the rod. I suspect you'd better think in terms of a new neck. If it were a new bass, this would definitely be a warranty issue.
But it is NOT the strings. They are not the problem.
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