Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-28-2009, 06:26 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: 123 Fake Street, Springfield U
Send a message via AIM to ChronicPyromaniac
Minor fret repair question

Sign in to disble this ad
On my Jazz Bass neck, the fourth fret seems to be a little higher than the others, so I checked it out and there's a little gap between the bottom of the fret and the top of the fingerboard. Is there any way I can compress this and fix the problem without taking the bass to a shop? It is really important to me since it makes all the frets below the fourth buzz like crazy, and playing the music I like just sounds terrible. I appreciate any help you guys can give me. Thanks!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by funk_engineer
Girlfriends who want to buy their boyfriends basses are the best kind of girlfriends.
Fender Classic Series 70's Jazz Bass Club #17
  #2  
Old 07-28-2009, 06:50 PM
Craig_S's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Metro Detroit
Supporting Member
Don't compress or hammer it in. That could make that fret lower than the rest. I would just dress it down (file it), until it's level with the rest. Though, the fret might not be seated correctly, in which case it's probably better to have a good tech look at it. It's possible the fret will continue to move.

I had a MIM P with a high fret. I just dressed it down. It never gave me an issue again.

Last edited by Craig_S : 07-28-2009 at 06:53 PM.
  #3  
Old 07-28-2009, 06:58 PM
Registered User

Artist:TC Electronic RH450 bass system
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fort Madison, IA
Take it to someone that has a proper fret-press and have it seated.
  #4  
Old 07-28-2009, 06:59 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: 123 Fake Street, Springfield U
Send a message via AIM to ChronicPyromaniac
What does a procedure like that usually cost? Will it be more pricey/difficult if the neck is bound?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by funk_engineer
Girlfriends who want to buy their boyfriends basses are the best kind of girlfriends.
Fender Classic Series 70's Jazz Bass Club #17
  #5  
Old 07-28-2009, 08:29 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Toronto Canada
For a properly-equppied technician this should be a simple and inexpensive job. But it depends a bit on why the fret is high in the first place. Whatever you do, don't just file it down. If the fret is not seated properly you will just create a further problem by filing it.

The approach I would take would be to re-seat the fret first by using a proper fret press. If it stayed seated I would return the bass to you and have you use it for a while to see if it raised again. If it did I would look at other means to seat it more premanently.

However, it may spring up immediately after re-seating. This calls for a bit more work in seating it, and consequently a bit more $$ to have it done.

Also it is possible that the fret slot was not cut deeply enough or that there is some debris in the fret slot. In such a case the job is a bit more pricey since the fret will have to be removed and the fret slot cleaned and/or deepened.

If the fret doesn't have to be removed, the job shouldn't cost any more because the board is bound. But if the fret slot has to be deepened - that's the costliest scenario.

Sound complicated? - it can be. My best advice is to take it to a competent luthier/tech.
__________________
Instrument Technician, Toronto

Last edited by Turnaround : 07-28-2009 at 08:35 PM.
  #6  
Old 07-28-2009, 08:35 PM
knigel's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Providence, RI
Send a message via AIM to knigel
Supporting Member
When I was in high school I loved Minor Fret.

Not really contributing, am I? *cough*
__________________
Broadcaster

The Extreme Terror
  #7  
Old 07-28-2009, 09:16 PM
Webtroll's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Austin TX
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turnaround View Post
Sound complicated? - it can be. My best advice is to take it to a competent luthier/tech.
Get a quote if you're worried about the cost. For a single fret it may not be bad. That being sait you may need to have the frets dressed for a tech to tackle it which would cost more.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper Man View Post
is one black? we all know black growls more
  #8  
Old 07-28-2009, 09:19 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Super glue...fret press,done!
  #9  
Old 07-29-2009, 07:32 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Supporting Member
Turnaround's advice is spot on. It is the intelligent, conservative strategy. It is also minimally invasive. It protects the client's pocketbook.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_S View Post
Don't compress or hammer it in. That could make that fret lower than the rest. I would just dress it down (file it), until it's level with the rest. Though, the fret might not be seated correctly, in which case it's probably better to have a good tech look at it. It's possible the fret will continue to move.
If the fret is "popped" this tactic will cause more problems than it will solve. A popped fret is the condition where the barbs on the fret tang are no longer engaging the walls of the fret slot. That portion of the fret is allowed to float. Fret wire is springy stuff. When a popped fret is dressed, it will react like a diving board. The file will take some off the top of the other frets while pressing the offending fret into the widened slot. The result is that the popped fret will be higher than the surrounding frets.

The remedies for a popped fret are gluing the fret down or replacing the fret. A skilled luthier can often glue the offending fret level so that it requires little or no dressing. Fret replacement will require spot dressing the entire area.

Quote:
I had a MIM P with a high fret. I just dressed it down. It never gave me an issue again.

As Turnaround pointed out, if the slot is cut shallow or there is debris in the slot, it will cause the fret to sit higher than the surrounding frets. The fret is stable and can be dressed level.
  #10  
Old 07-29-2009, 09:18 AM
ByF ByF is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Dan Erlewine has a very good discription of how to glue down a loose fret in his Guitar Repair book. I've done it, and it works well.

Ed
  #11  
Old 07-29-2009, 10:26 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: 123 Fake Street, Springfield U
Send a message via AIM to ChronicPyromaniac
Thanks for the advice guys. I found a Fender Authorized repair guy in my town who says he can take care of it. Hopefully the warranty will still cover it. Fingers crossed!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by funk_engineer
Girlfriends who want to buy their boyfriends basses are the best kind of girlfriends.
Fender Classic Series 70's Jazz Bass Club #17
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:53 AM.




Copyright ©2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All right reserved.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.