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06-06-2011, 02:54 PM
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Hey,
I have a squier standard jazz, and it is an awfully light bass. It really does not feel "stable", if that makes any sense. Does anyone have any suggestions not including buying a new bass? | 
06-06-2011, 02:57 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York City | | | Tape some fishing weights inside it. | 
06-06-2011, 02:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Southern Maryland | | | Good deal, I assume to just remove the pickguard and put them in the cavity? I am a noob so forgive me if it comes across like a dumb question.
Thanks! | 
06-06-2011, 03:42 PM
|  | (aka Black Bart) | | Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: OR | | | I think Joe Nerve might have been joking.
To be quite honest most of us here would not complain about a bass being to light. That said there is really nothing you can do to make it feel more solid, it is what it is.
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06-06-2011, 03:46 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northeast, US | | | I think you should be pleased. Does it sound good?
Light basses are hard to come by.
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06-06-2011, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bmb73 Good deal, I assume to just remove the pickguard and put them in the cavity? I am a noob so forgive me if it comes across like a dumb question.
Thanks! | Exactly, lead fishing weights in the vicinity of the pickups. The magnetic qualities of the pickups should help hold them steady. 
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06-06-2011, 03:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Anasleim, CA | | | This might be the first time someone came onto TB to complain that their bass was too light! | 
06-06-2011, 05:10 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing artist: Musicman basses, Hipshot products | | Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: New York City | | | I was serious actually. I just bought some to try to alleviate some neckdive in my fenderbird but it only made the bass heavier. | 
06-06-2011, 05:12 PM
|  | (aka Black Bart) | | Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: OR | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Nerve I was serious actually. I just bought some to try to alleviate some neckdive in my fenderbird but it only made the bass heavier. | Lighter tuners?
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06-06-2011, 06:05 PM
| | | | Light does not mean less sturdy. Lighter is more able to bounce rather then just slam crash. Aluminum is stronger and sturdier, then many metals, yet lighter then most. Tonka toy plastic is about as durable a substance as you can find, yet is extra light weight.
Weight added to help decrease neck dive has to be in the far back of the body as close to center as possible. Otherwise it doesnt provide any kind of balance counter. A lightweight stuffed animal toy hanging off the rear strap button if its center of body rear or higher. Will prevent neck dive better then a half pound of fish wights in the middle of the bodys mass. The end of the fulcrum you want to effect is at body rear center same as the line from end of headstock drawn thru body and out its rear. Or from on top of that line at the rear. The control cavity is also not far back enough and is actually on the wrong side (lower) of the body for most effect in weight adding. Its easier to raise the opposite side of a teeter totter from the far end, then it is closer to its middle.
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06-06-2011, 06:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tasmania, Australia. | | | I do exactly what Joe Nerve has stated, joking or not. My 2 basses in my sig felt a little light to me. I like heavy basses!
I bought some lead fishing sinkers and Blutac'd(soft putty like material used for sticking posters on walls - not sure what it's called in the rest of the world!)them inside the control cavity.
I do this for a number of reasons. Firstly I do like a bass to feel a little heavier. I know this doesn't affect tone or sustain, however it makes the bass "feel" right to me I guess is how I would justify it.
Secondly I hold my bass very low, and typically most basses naturally hang a little too horizontal. Adding the weight naturally makes the neck sit up a little, enhancing the playing position so my left hand just has to fret, not hold the neck up.
No if it is neck dive you are trying to combat you can do 2 more things that alter how a bass balances. If it is a standard Fender style instrument it will have the heavy clover shaped tuners. Hipshot make Ultralite tuners that do significantly weigh less but look the same.
Secondly - typically the strap button at the bottom of the bass will be positioned in the centre of the body. If you dont mind a little hole being left you can move the strap button up 2 - 3 inches towards the top of the forearm contour (check pics of a Spector NS bass if you're not sure what I'm on about). This shifts the angle at which a bass naturally rests.
There's my 2c!
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06-08-2011, 02:36 AM
| | | | to simplify, if it is not balanced, shift the strap buttons, if it tilts head first, move the rear one higher, if it falls arse first... actually, I've never had that happen.....
Otherwise, tie a brick to it. I got sick of lugging fenders around stage and got a cort for the weight and modded the hell out of it. Now i dont feel like i am dragging a dead cow with me on stage. The other thing is, after a 3 hour set, not more neck cramps.
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06-09-2011, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bmb73 Hey,
I have a squier standard jazz, and it is an awfully light bass. It really does not feel "stable", if that makes any sense. Does anyone have any suggestions not including buying a new bass? | I know exactly what you mean. I never could get comfortable enough with a headless bass I bought many years ago for the same reason, didn't seem to be enough mass hanging off the strap | 
06-09-2011, 09:53 AM
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06-09-2011, 09:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Japan | | | Try a heavy (high-mass) bridge? They're heavy and put the weight all the way at the bottom. | 
06-09-2011, 11:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tasmania, Australia. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bunnykeeper Try a heavy (high-mass) bridge? They're heavy and put the weight all the way at the bottom. | +1 to this as well!
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06-10-2011, 08:52 PM
| | | | lightweight keys will make a bigger difference than anything else, since they have so much leverage out at the end of the neck.
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06-10-2011, 10:59 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Minneapolis | | | adjust the height of your bass so that it is really rooted into your body/ribcage?
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