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Old 03-09-2007, 08:18 AM
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Hey guys keep in mind that i play this bass for hours each day so i know i will have wear in spots. But i was just wondering if you guys know of a way to fix this problem? I wax my bass heavily because of this problem.. Any other ideas?

Just to let you know i wax this bass probably one or two times a month and the rest of the time she sleeps in a nice hard case.

You will notice the spot on this bass that r wearing very fast.

just above the pickup on the right

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Old 03-09-2007, 09:31 AM
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That seems fairly common on Warwicks- I don't know why they don't use a better oil based finish- I finished a bass in Gun stock oil and never had a single problem like that.

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Is there a harder wax i can think about using?
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Old 03-12-2007, 01:28 PM
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Is there a harder wax i can think about using?
There are harder waxes but I really doubt that will provide much more protection. It looks like the problem is no, or very little, protective finish over the oil and stain on the bass. Penetrating oil finishes aren't the greatest for protection. Minimal at best. Some of the thicker oil finishes (which usually have more resin added to them) will protect a bit more.

For a fix you'd have to thoroughly clean all the old wax off the bass. Then find a stain that matches that colour and tough up the worn spots. (that's if the stain will penetrate the oil finish enough) Then re-oil. If you re-oil with a more protective finish you'll change the look of course.

For example, Minwax Antique Oil Finish, which is easy to find, will penetrate well and probably protect a bit longer and better than what's on there. But you'd need to put on 3 coats after re-staining. Even then, it won't stand up to a lot of wear. These oil finishes aren't meant to be built up to a thick film on top of the wood. The oils will darken with age too so that should be taken into account.

To remove all that old wax you can use paint thinner like Varsol and a cloth. It'll take a lot of work because the wax probably soaked in quite a ways. You'll need to work outdoors because the fumes are objectionable.

Or, you could strip the whole thing down to bare wood and start over. Instead of oil you could use Minwax Wipe On Polyurethane finish. It'll build up and provide a lot better protection. It'll look different though because it builds up on top of the wood. That's a lot of work too-not putting on the Minwax, which is dead easy, but stripping all the old stuff off.

But I don't know of any wax hard enough to really protect all that well. I've used hard furniture waxes with carnauba wax and they're tougher, but still not really all that hard.
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Old 03-12-2007, 01:31 PM
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There are harder waxes but I really doubt that will provide much more protection. It looks like the problem is no, or very little, protective finish over the oil and stain on the bass. Penetrating oil finishes aren't the greatest for protection. Minimal at best. Some of the thicker oil finishes (which usually have more resin added to them) will protect a bit more.

For a fix you'd have to thoroughly clean all the old wax off the bass. Then find a stain that matches that colour and tough up the worn spots. (that's if the stain will penetrate the oil finish enough) Then re-oil. If you re-oil with a more protective finish you'll change the look of course.

For example, Minwax Antique Oil Finish, which is easy to find, will penetrate well and probably protect a bit longer and better than what's on there. But you'd need to put on 3 coats after re-staining. Even then, it won't stand up to a lot of wear. These oil finishes aren't meant to be built up to a thick film on top of the wood. The oils will darken with age too so that should be taken into account.

To remove all that old wax you can use paint thinner like Varsol and a cloth. It'll take a lot of work because the wax probably soaked in quite a ways. You'll need to work outdoors because the fumes are objectionable.

Or, you could strip the whole thing down to bare wood and start over. Instead of oil you could use Minwax Wipe On Polyurethane finish. It'll build up and provide a lot better protection. It'll look different though because it builds up on top of the wood. That's a lot of work too-not putting on the Minwax, which is dead easy, but stripping all the old stuff off.

But I don't know of any wax hard enough to really protect all that well. I've used hard furniture waxes with carnauba wax and they're tougher, but still not really all that hard.

Ok thanks for the input.. I will probably just wax it as usual and let it wear.. I could not imagine trying to do anything drastic to my spector....

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You shouldn't wax too frequently. It doesn't do all that much good and the frequent rubbing might be wearing off some of that finish.

I have an oil finished ash body P. I wax it once or twice a year and wipe it down once a week with a damp, clean cloth. It's standing up pretty good for 6 or more years.
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