Neck Anomaly

morbid4you · #1 07-25-2006, 04:59 PM

I have a washburn t-24, that has an unusual problem. At first glance there is nothing wrong with the guitar, actually, at a good glance there is nothing wrong with the guitar. However, the strings are all riding up against the frets, like, completely. There's no reason for it, I can't figure this out at all.

I was wondering if theres anyone out there who can tell me possibilities of what I should do. The neck isn't warped, or bent, the saddles are up, there's like, literally nothing I can tell on the guitar that would have this kind of effect. I don't think that the strings would have anything to do with it, but I want to know if there's anything I can do to fix it before I bring it to a shop and have to spend a fart load of money.

Thanks

Poop-Loops · #2 07-25-2006, 05:10 PM

Pictures.

Do you mean the strings are too low despite the saddles being up and their being sufficient bowing in the neck?

Is the nut cut alright, or do the strings go too low? Fret the 3rd fret and see if there is any space above the first fret to the string.

Wait, hold on, are the strings tuned correctly?

morbid4you · #3 07-25-2006, 05:17 PM

they're tuned correctly, the nut is fine, everything is fine, the strings are touching the neck completely, 100 percent riding on every single fret.

pkr2 · #4 07-25-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by morbid4you

they're tuned correctly, the nut is fine, everything is fine, the strings are touching the neck completely, 100 percent riding on every single fret.

What you are describing is a bit confusing. How can you tell that the strings are tuned properly if the strings are laying against the FB?

I'm not familiar with the bridge on that particular bass. Are the saddles roller type like a Fender bridge? If so are the saddles all the way down against the bridge base?

Jazz Ad · #5 07-25-2006, 06:34 PM

From what you describe, the neck has no curve at all, which would mean your trussrod needs unscrewed a bit.

pkr2 · #6 07-25-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazz Ad

From what you describe, the neck has no curve at all, which would mean your trussrod needs unscrewed a bit.

To start changing adjustments before actually knowing what happened doesn't seem like a good idea, Jazz.

I have never seen a truss rod change that much on its own. Plus the fact that it changed in a direction that indicates that if that were the problem, it had to have tightened itself by a HUGE amount.

To be honest, The only way that I can see the problem occurring, as described, is for someone to have vandalized the bass. I can't see tightening the truss rod enough to lay the strings down to that degree without stripping the TR nut or breaking the rod itself.

In fact if one were trying to duplicate the symptom, I believe the only way it could possibly be done would be to lower all the string heigth adjustments.

Something is seriously not adding up here. Unless I'm totally missing something.

jeffhigh · #7 07-25-2006, 09:39 PM

If the strings are riding on all the frets including the last ones (22 or 24) and the bridge saddles are adjusted fully up then there is a neck angle problem. Maybe someone has shimmed the neck excessively.
May also be a neck relief problem too, but this would not cause the strings to rest on the upper frets.

pkr2 · #8 07-25-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffhigh

If the strings are riding on all the frets including the last ones (22 or 24) and the bridge saddles are adjusted fully up then there is a neck angle problem. Maybe someone has shimmed the neck excessively.
May also be a neck relief problem too, but this would not cause the strings to rest on the upper frets.

That's what has me buffalloed. The thing of it is, though, is that a T24 is a neckthrough.

jeffhigh · #9 07-26-2006, 12:36 AM

I suspect then that the information being given is not quite clear.We are told that the saddles are up, are they up all the way?

Jazz Ad · #10 07-26-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pkr2

To start changing adjustments before actually knowing what happened doesn't seem like a good idea, Jazz....Something is seriously not adding up here. Unless I'm totally missing something.

Once again, it's hard to judge without pics but I can see this easily happening.
It's summertime. A couple hours in a parked car are enough to do that if the setting already was pretty low before.