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Old 05-28-2011, 07:51 AM
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Neck warped, or is this normal?

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I went to adjust my truss rod after putting on new strings. I check the relief by pressing the first and last fret, and seeing how much space there is in the middle between the frets and the string.

My problem? If I check the B string, there's less relief than if I do the same thing with the G string. I'm thinking my neck must be warped or frets not levelled?

Should be the same amount of relief all across the neck right? Never noticed before, maybe I just never checked more than 1 string to set the truss rod before...

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Old 05-28-2011, 08:04 AM
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If you are asking if it's common, the answer is "yes". It's generally not serious though unless it interferes with proper playability of the instrument. So if your instruments sets up and plays the way you like, don't worry. Keep an eye on it to see if it becomes more exaggerated, at which point you may get a little more concerned. Otherwise just enjoy playing.
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:05 AM
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Re-check it while depressing the ~17th fret (where the neck meets the body) and see if there's better correlation. Are you using a capo & feeler gauges or judging by dead reckoning (sighting down the the fretboard)?

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Re-check it while depressing the ~17th fret (where the neck meets the body) and see if there's better correlation. Are you using a capo & feeler gauges or judging by dead reckoning (sighting down the the fretboard)?

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I hold down the string at the first and last frets, then stretch a thumb to depress the string in the middle to get an idea how far away from the frets it is. I'm assuming the tightened string is a pretty good approximation of perfect straightedge.

I'm forced to have the G string's action higher than I'm used to on my other basses, that's what got me investigating. I can usually set them up to my satisfaction, but this has been difficult.

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I hold down the string at the first and last frets, then stretch a thumb to depress the string in the middle to get an idea how far away from the frets it is. I'm assuming the tightened string is a pretty good approximation of perfect straightedge.

I'm forced to have the G string's action higher than I'm used to on my other basses, that's what got me investigating. I can usually set them up to my satisfaction, but this has been difficult.

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Spot on. The reason I recommended the 17th fret is to take the 17th - 24th out of the equation. A tongue rise or hump will skew the method you've described and cannot be adequately remedied by manipulating the truss rod.

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Old 05-28-2011, 12:29 PM
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Spot on. The reason I recommended the 17th fret is to take the 17th - 24th out of the equation. A tongue rise or hump will skew the method you've described and cannot be adequately remedied by manipulating the truss rod.

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Gotcha, I'll give it a try and let you know.. I only go to an E on the G string, don't have 24 frets, but I have more than 17...

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Different strings have different "pull-pressure" depending upon construction, width and tuning. Take a set of (round or flat wound) strings and different pull will be exerted from the E (or B) to the G. The neck on the other hand generally is consistent from the use of a consistent sample of wood and lamination from one side to the other. Therefore you have one side may be "table-top flat" while the other has a tiny bit of relief (in the thousandths). This is quite normal unless the level of relief is substantial on one side. Even then; if it plays well, I doubt it's worth the worry.

From working with the string size and design (custom single string purchases) you certainly can get a totally flat neck IF that is important to you but the tiniest bit of relief may eliminate any buzz IF you are working toward a very low action. It's easy to make yourself a bit crazy trying to eliminate any relief what-so-ever from many necks due to the above example of variances in pull.
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Old 05-29-2011, 12:33 AM
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You also have a certain amount of curve in the neck. Just turn up the volume more.
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