Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-15-2007, 01:12 PM
...Bluesin' and Funkin'
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Send a message via MSN to Jazzin'
Painting a White Pickguard Black

Sign in to disble this ad
I photoshopped my Jaguar to have a black pickguard and like how it looks. Since these pickguards are not available unless custom made, I want to spraypaint it black myself.

Here is a picture of the bass:


1 - Is this a good idea?
2 - What kind of paint should I use?
3 - Should I do any preperations before painting it like lightly sanding?
4 - Would I need to add a clear coat or something on top?
5 - Does anybody have any experience with this?
6 - Is it possible to make it look like I actually bought a black pickguard?
__________________
Fender Dlx Jaguar Std Jazz Fretless Am Dlx Precision Kustom GrooveBass1200 Avatar B210neo B212
Questionable Quintet
  #2  
Old 01-15-2007, 01:44 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
I would think that the paint would chip and scratch quickly, especially if you use a pick. By the time you buy the items to paint it, you will have spent more than just buying one when you consider what your time is worth.

There are any number of manufacturers who make pickguards at reasonable prices for your bass.

Check out this place. I have bought several pickguards from them, always first-class stuff, and reasonably priced. They have Jaguar pickguards in stock.


http://www.pickguards.us/pricejaguar.html


PS-Good looking bass, don't mess it up by spray painting the pickguard. (IMHO)
__________________
Success is no fun, unless you have someone with whom you can share it.
Fender MIA Club Member #72
  #3  
Old 01-15-2007, 02:08 PM
...Bluesin' and Funkin'
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Send a message via MSN to Jazzin'
Quote:
Originally Posted by Salicete View Post
I would think that the paint would chip and scratch quickly, especially if you use a pick. By the time you buy the items to paint it, you will have spent more than just buying one when you consider what your time is worth.

There are any number of manufacturers who make pickguards at reasonable prices for your bass.

Check out this place. I have bought several pickguards from them, always first-class stuff, and reasonably priced. They have Jaguar pickguards in stock.


http://www.pickguards.us/pricejaguar.html


PS-Good looking bass, don't mess it up by spray painting the pickguard. (IMHO)
Keep in mind, this is a Jaguar Bass. The pickguard is different. I beleive it is impossible to get one unless it's custom made.
__________________
Fender Dlx Jaguar Std Jazz Fretless Am Dlx Precision Kustom GrooveBass1200 Avatar B210neo B212
Questionable Quintet
  #4  
Old 01-15-2007, 02:14 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Corsicana, Texas
I've never painted one myself, but I have seen a few that were spraypainted. IMO, they all looked bad and cheap. However, I think Krylon is making spray paint for plastics now, and a gloss black in that might work. Just my $.02, etc
  #5  
Old 01-15-2007, 02:28 PM
Tommy Hagen's Avatar
Bassist
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Oslo, Norway
Supporting Member
Before you spraypaint you could mail Ishibashi in Japan and ask them if it's available in black. Their mail adress is: web-shop@ishibashi.co.jp

Tommy
  #6  
Old 01-15-2007, 02:30 PM
...Bluesin' and Funkin'
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Send a message via MSN to Jazzin'
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Hagen View Post
Before you spraypaint you could mail Ishibashi in Japan and ask them if it's available in black. Their mail adress is: web-shop@ishibashi.co.jp

Tommy
I've already spoken to them. They wouldn't even give me a tort pg after they sent me a white one by accident. They said it was my fault it's white because when they checked it before they shipped it, it was tort.
__________________
Fender Dlx Jaguar Std Jazz Fretless Am Dlx Precision Kustom GrooveBass1200 Avatar B210neo B212
Questionable Quintet
  #7  
Old 01-15-2007, 02:30 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzin' View Post
Keep in mind, this is a Jaguar Bass. The pickguard is different. I beleive it is impossible to get one unless it's custom made.
You can spray paint it with good results if you do a careful job. Look for Krylon brand spray cans and look for a fast drying one suitable for plastic. Read the label. Preparation of the pickguard is important to good final results, as is true with any finishing job. I'd give the pickguard a light hand sanding with 400 grit wet or dry paper to give it a bit of tooth to hold the paint better. Wash off all gunk, grease , wax and mung. You want it as clean as possible. I'd use alcohol for that, and because your pickguard isn't nitro, it will be safe to use as a cleaner. It'll dry quickly and leave no residue. You'll have your pickguard removed of course.

The trick with spray cans is to do multiple thin coats. You don't want runs and drips. 3 coats will probably do it. Practice on some white posterboard first to get the hang of it. Read the label to find out about drying times between coats. I've had good results with spray cans, provided I did careful work. Before spraying the last coat, check the finish and if you have bumps, nibs or paint sags, sand very lightly with 600 grit, but make sure the paint is completely dry first. Give the paint 2 to 3 days at room temperature to harden properly before you put the pickguard back in use. I think you can do a good job, and cheaper than getting a custom replacement done.
  #8  
Old 01-15-2007, 02:45 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hessle near Hull,England
I'm also considering a new pick guard for the jag maybe a black on the red jag anyone have a photo shop?

a while back someone posted saying they sent blueprints off to a company and gave a price around $70
__________________
Basses-Fender Jaguar,Ibanez Gsr-200
Effects- Bad monkey digitech synth/wah
  #9  
Old 01-15-2007, 02:45 PM
...Bluesin' and Funkin'
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Send a message via MSN to Jazzin'
Quote:
Originally Posted by 62bass View Post
You can spray paint it with good results if you do a careful job. Look for Krylon brand spray cans and look for a fast drying one suitable for plastic. Read the label. Preparation of the pickguard is important to good final results, as is true with any finishing job. I'd give the pickguard a light hand sanding with 400 grit wet or dry paper to give it a bit of tooth to hold the paint better. Wash off all gunk, grease , wax and mung. You want it as clean as possible. I'd use alcohol for that, and because your pickguard isn't nitro, it will be safe to use as a cleaner. It'll dry quickly and leave no residue. You'll have your pickguard removed of course.

The trick with spray cans is to do multiple thin coats. You don't want runs and drips. 3 coats will probably do it. Practice on some white posterboard first to get the hang of it. Read the label to find out about drying times between coats. I've had good results with spray cans, provided I did careful work. Before spraying the last coat, check the finish and if you have bumps, nibs or paint sags, sand very lightly with 600 grit, but make sure the paint is completely dry first. Give the paint 2 to 3 days at room temperature to harden properly before you put the pickguard back in use. I think you can do a good job, and cheaper than getting a custom replacement done.
Thanks for the advice. I'll probably do this thursday because I have this coffee house thing to play at for my friends brother.
__________________
Fender Dlx Jaguar Std Jazz Fretless Am Dlx Precision Kustom GrooveBass1200 Avatar B210neo B212
Questionable Quintet
  #10  
Old 01-15-2007, 02:57 PM
...Bluesin' and Funkin'
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Send a message via MSN to Jazzin'
Would this be ok?
http://www.rona.ca/webapp/wcs/stores...C34374%2C34270

I also found something flat, plastic and white (2"x3") that I can practice/test on first.
__________________
Fender Dlx Jaguar Std Jazz Fretless Am Dlx Precision Kustom GrooveBass1200 Avatar B210neo B212
Questionable Quintet
  #11  
Old 01-15-2007, 03:32 PM
ponticat's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Alexandria, Virginia
GOLD Supporting Member
Krylon spray cans branded "Fusion" are the ones to use. I've sprayed two pickguards black that originally were white. The results were quite good.
  #12  
Old 01-16-2007, 09:56 AM
...Bluesin' and Funkin'
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Send a message via MSN to Jazzin'
What should I do for masking the beveled edges? I want to keep the white stripes on the edges.
__________________
Fender Dlx Jaguar Std Jazz Fretless Am Dlx Precision Kustom GrooveBass1200 Avatar B210neo B212
Questionable Quintet
  #13  
Old 01-16-2007, 10:23 AM
giglawyer's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Toledo, OH
Send a message via Yahoo to giglawyer
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzin' View Post
I've already spoken to them. They wouldn't even give me a tort pg after they sent me a white one by accident. They said it was my fault it's white because when they checked it before they shipped it, it was tort.
I'm sorry, but that may be the funniest thing I read all day (its a slow day here).
__________________
"We are like pygmies lost in a maze of haze. We are not at war, we are having a nervous breakdown,again." - HST...RIP.
  #14  
Old 01-16-2007, 04:12 PM
ponticat's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Alexandria, Virginia
GOLD Supporting Member
For masking the edges try very sticky, high quality tan masking tape or Scotch "Invisible" Mending Tape. Tape would have to applied very carefully (to avoid having the tape go up and over onto the face of the pickguard) and very firmly to avoid having paint bleed under the tape. The paint would have to be sprayed as thinly as possible to cover the white because an edge will build up where the paint meets the tape; the thicker the edge, the more prone it will be to chipping. It also may be possible to spray the whole pickguard and then scrape or sand the bevel to reveal the laminations. I have not tried this; the paint may chip at the edge where the bevel meets the face.
  #15  
Old 01-16-2007, 08:02 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Washington
www.terrapinguitars.com

they have jaguarbass pickguards there.
  #16  
Old 01-16-2007, 08:13 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Washington
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonpeck View Post
I'm also considering a new pick guard for the jag maybe a black on the red jag anyone have a photo shop?

a while back someone posted saying they sent blueprints off to a company and gave a price around $70
  #17  
Old 01-16-2007, 08:58 PM
...Bluesin' and Funkin'
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Send a message via MSN to Jazzin'
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante_x1 View Post
www.terrapinguitars.com

they have jaguarbass pickguards there.
Where? I can't find it.
__________________
Fender Dlx Jaguar Std Jazz Fretless Am Dlx Precision Kustom GrooveBass1200 Avatar B210neo B212
Questionable Quintet
  #18  
Old 01-16-2007, 10:55 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Washington
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzin' View Post
Where? I can't find it.
http://www.terrapinguitars.com/pg2/Jaguar_06.php
  #19  
Old 01-17-2007, 04:42 AM
...Bluesin' and Funkin'
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Send a message via MSN to Jazzin'
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante_x1 View Post
Doesn't say Jaguar Bass.
There's also a Jaguar guitar which is just called the Jaguar.
__________________
Fender Dlx Jaguar Std Jazz Fretless Am Dlx Precision Kustom GrooveBass1200 Avatar B210neo B212
Questionable Quintet
  #20  
Old 01-17-2007, 01:54 PM
Baa Baa is offline
Happy hobbyplayer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: stockholm, sweden
You could try plastic vinyl. Its available in hobbyshops or at decorators. The benefit is that itīs easy to apply and easy to remove, so if you change your mind you can easily restore it itīs original look. And if you schratch it, just replace it. I do this a lot, mostly because itīs kinda fun, and i get a new look on my bass whenever i want in 5 minutes.
__________________
Yamaha Club member #3
Yamaha BB615 • Ibanez RB800 / SR300DX defretted / BTB405 / EWB205
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:32 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.