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Old 10-09-2008, 12:25 PM
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Pickguard change? Vinyl? Suggestions?

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So I did a search and came across a couple ideas for changing my pick guard color...but haven't seen any finished products here on TB...

I'm NOT going to paint it. Comes out too messy and amaturish, and will probably chip. Anyone tried a vinyl adhesive?

My idea is to cover my old white (Geddy Lee Jazz) PG in a colored adhesive vinyl and cut around it like a template. Then I have a new color on my old white pick guard for a low cost!
I'm a DIY kinda guy, so I think this would be a fun project. Anyone have pics or completed a similar project??? Any advise?
Where can I obtain this vinyl?
Also, any color suggestions?
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:28 PM
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Unless your pickguard is flawlessly smooth, it is likely to bubble or peel, if not tear.

I would recommend buying a new pickguard. Shouldn't be hard to find on for a Geddy Jazz.
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:36 PM
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Unless your pickguard is flawlessly smooth, it is likely to bubble or peel, if not tear.

I would recommend buying a new pickguard. Shouldn't be hard to find on for a Geddy Jazz.
They're not hard to find - I have a few options for pre-made PG's - Black, White flake, black flake, or tort (which is a red tort, not brown)

I'm not crazy about these colors...and...my PG is flawlessly smooth...
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:06 AM
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I would recommend buying a new pickguard
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Whats so special about the scratchplate of the Geddy Lee Jazz anyway? Won't any jazz one fit?
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:22 AM
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Whats so special about the scratchplate of the Geddy Lee Jazz anyway? Won't any jazz one fit?
No, the holes won't line up. Or so I've read...
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Just keep in mind that there will be excess vinyl around the edges.

I used a metalic contact paper from Lowe's/Home Depot (like for kitchen cabinet shelves). I couldn't think of a way to cut the paper so it would be perfectly even around the top edge of the bevel (on the face of the pg), so I cut it about 1/4" to 1/2" bigger around all edges.

Since it was more "brittle" than vinyl and wrinkles easily, I had to slice about a 1000 perpendicular slits around the edges so I could wrap the excess around the bevel and stick them to the back of the pg. The issue is, the slits are visible up close.

I figured that, since the paper had a relatively light adhesive, I could easily remove it later...not so much. After a couple of weeks, it's gonna take a new pg or a lot of elbow grease/chemicals.

I ended up making a pg out of sheet aluminum...


I hear ya on the DIY thing. I'm usually not happy unless I do something myself (if for nothing else, than for the experience alone).

As far as where to get the vinyl, I'd try a custom sign shop (one that specializes in vinyl graphics/decals). SignsFast, etc. have chain stores. They'll usually sell bulk or pre-cut sizes and have a decent selection of colors/finishes. When you apply the vinyl, spray the adhesive and the pg with a water/light detergent solution (a couple of drops of liquid dishsoap in a spay bottle of water). Use a body filler spreader to smooth the bubbles out. The water/soap gives you more time to work w/ the vinyl. If you get a bubble, you can either pull the vinyl off before the water dries (couple minutes) and start over or use a needle to pop/flatten the bubble. The sign place should have a squeegie if you don't want to use the body filler spreader.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:43 PM
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Just keep in mind that there will be excess vinyl around the edges.

I used a metalic contact paper from Lowe's/Home Depot (like for kitchen cabinet shelves). I couldn't think of a way to cut the paper so it would be perfectly even around the top edge of the bevel (on the face of the pg), so I cut it about 1/4" to 1/2" bigger around all edges.

Since it was more "brittle" than vinyl and wrinkles easily, I had to slice about a 1000 perpendicular slits around the edges so I could wrap the excess around the bevel and stick them to the back of the pg. The issue is, the slits are visible up close.

I figured that, since the paper had a relatively light adhesive, I could easily remove it later...not so much. After a couple of weeks, it's gonna take a new pg or a lot of elbow grease/chemicals.

I ended up making a pg out of sheet aluminum...


I hear ya on the DIY thing. I'm usually not happy unless I do something myself (if for nothing else, than for the experience alone).

As far as where to get the vinyl, I'd try a custom sign shop (one that specializes in vinyl graphics/decals). SignsFast, etc. have chain stores. They'll usually sell bulk or pre-cut sizes and have a decent selection of colors/finishes. When you apply the vinyl, spray the adhesive and the pg with a water/light detergent solution (a couple of drops of liquid dishsoap in a spay bottle of water). Use a body filler spreader to smooth the bubbles out. The water/soap gives you more time to work w/ the vinyl. If you get a bubble, you can either pull the vinyl off before the water dries (couple minutes) and start over or use a needle to pop/flatten the bubble. The sign place should have a squeegie if you don't want to use the body filler spreader.
Thanks for the help! I really dig the way that aluminum looks - especially w/ the rivets! Nice!
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:26 PM
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Thanks Bro,

It's a $65 pawn shop Affinity w/ someone's flat black paintjob, so I was kinda going for the beater/rat rod/aircraft look I guess.
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