Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-17-2008, 06:31 AM
BullHorn's Avatar
Ampeeeeeeg \o/
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Israel
Supporting Member
Replacing original strap holders with dunlop straplocks.

Sign in to disble this ad
They suggest using wax or soap on the screws. Should i do this or just put the screws in without it?

As far as i know, the wax could protect the screw from corrosion and damage to the wood.

What do you guys think?
__________________
MIJ Precision 1988 -> Ampeg SVT7PRO
  #2  
Old 07-17-2008, 08:18 AM
slyjoe's Avatar
Thread Killer
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun (AZ)
Supporting Member
It's not to protect from corrosion - it's to make the screw go in easier to an undersized hole. My experience with straplocks is that the hole is usually too big, not too small. In which case broken off toothpicks can be used to fill the hole.
__________________
Practice doesn't make perfect - it makes permanent.
  #3  
Old 07-17-2008, 08:36 AM
VroomVroom's Avatar
Cogito Ergo Idiot
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, CA
Send a message via Yahoo to VroomVroom
GOLD Supporting Member
Echo on the lubrication for the screw. My experience has generally been that threading these things in is a bit difficult...obviously depends on the instrument.
__________________
-Jerry
Mike Lull | Rob Allen | Roscoe | Sadowsky
Genz Benz | Bergantino | Epifani


Facebook: Musician Page | Personal Profile
Blog: Low Notes
  #4  
Old 07-17-2008, 10:31 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Goldsboro, N.C.
Send a message via AIM to indieandrew11 Send a message via Yahoo to indieandrew11
well depending on whether or not you plan on taking them out and putting them back in over and over again, wood glue makes a great lubricant too and will help the screw stay snug so that it wont back out on you over time.
__________________
[url]http://www.myspace.com/mattbartlettband[/urlhttp://www.myspace.com/heydayband47
  #5  
Old 07-18-2008, 10:19 AM
Chasarms's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: St. Louis, MO USA
Supporting Member
Yes. The screws provided by Dunlop are heavier as well as longer than the typical stock strap button.

A couple of drags accross a bar of soap or candle will make it easier to get them to tighten up.
  #6  
Old 07-18-2008, 02:34 PM
60bass's Avatar
Get down low and stay there
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: 8 miles high
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by BullHorn View Post
They suggest using wax or soap on the screws. Should i do this or just put the screws in without it?

As far as i know, the wax could protect the screw from corrosion and damage to the wood.

What do you guys think?
OK This comes from a 20+ year user of Dunlop strap locks. I ONLY use the original "long" style as it gives me a good lenght to slip my cord through on it's way to the input jack. This applies to Fender basses or any bass where the buttons are on the end and the front end of the upper horn.

Remove old buttons, if the holes are worn out and loose you can use a toothpick with a "small" amount (just coat the sides) of white glue (elmers) and slip it in before you put the new screws in. The Dunlop screws are longer and slightly larger diameter than the stock Fender screws. I take a small 2 inch brad nail, insert it in the hole and give a couple of "light" taps in the end of the hole and remove the nail. Be careful, you dont want that nail stuck in there. This will create a small dimple in the hole for the new screw to bite into. You can also use a fine wire drill bit but be careful, turn the bit by hand, you just need some fresh dimples at the end of the hole.

Make sure that your screwdriver matches the head of the new screw perfectly so it won't slip out. Take the new screw and rub it on a bar of soap to coat the threads with soap. Insert the screw and tighten slowly. If you feel any resistance, stop and back out the screw, re-soap and start again. Turn until it snugs up and then just a hair more and you're done.

I always use the little felt washers from Fender between the lock and body just to make it look nice. I have a bass that has straplocks installed this way and no problems in over 20 years.

One other thing I do yearly is put a small amount of machine oil on the ends of the strap connectors just to keep ball bearings lubed and free so they don't stick. You don't need very much and wipe off any excess.

NEVER - assume that the strap is locked in the button. Always check it after inserting it. Give it a good pull, make sure it's locked in there. I've had them slip out right after inserting but it has been a rare occurance. Better to be safe.

Good luck and stay low
__________________
Black N Maple Club #221, Fender MIA bass Club #30, Official Fender Precision Bass Club #133, #134, #135, P Bass Club # 635, Rickenbacker Club #374, Hartke Club #259
  #7  
Old 07-18-2008, 06:08 PM
VroomVroom's Avatar
Cogito Ergo Idiot
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, CA
Send a message via Yahoo to VroomVroom
GOLD Supporting Member
^ Absolutely great advice!
__________________
-Jerry
Mike Lull | Rob Allen | Roscoe | Sadowsky
Genz Benz | Bergantino | Epifani


Facebook: Musician Page | Personal Profile
Blog: Low Notes
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:09 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.