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06-03-2011, 05:14 PM
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I bought a Squier Vintage Modified P Bass a few hours ago, and noticed all of the guard screws were rusted. Nothing else was. Does anyone know if they intentionally do this? It is "vintage" after all. Also, replacing the screws, is there anything to it? Or just do it slowly? |
06-03-2011, 05:22 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | 1) Buy Fender replacement PG screws at GC.
2) Unscrew old screws.
3) Screw in new screws.
Very difficult and time consuming - may take you up to 3 minutes! Good excuse for beer break! 
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06-03-2011, 05:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | | It's really, really easy... but seriously, you bought this thing a few hours ago? You shouldn't have to replace anything! Take it back to the store and ask them to give you a bass with no rust on it!
Unless, of course, I'm jumping to conclusions and you bought it used, in which case I humbly retract my mini-rant. |
06-03-2011, 05:30 PM
| | | | No, its brand new. It was a floor model, that was all they had. |
06-03-2011, 05:31 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jamestown, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilgrim  1) Buy Fender replacement PG screws at GC.
2) Unscrew old screws.
3) Screw in new screws.
Very difficult and time consuming - may take you up to 3 minutes! Good excuse for beer break! | That wasn't his question. His question was "why are my pickguard screws rusted on a "new" floor model instrument?"
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06-03-2011, 05:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | | Ask them to replace the screws. The worst they can say is no, right? |
06-03-2011, 05:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jamestown, NY | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeAndAirwaves No, its brand new. It was a floor model, that was all they had. | I think it largely has to do with the cheap metal parts Squier models have always used. It is likely a worse batch of bad chrome screws. Watch out, might be some lead in there 
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06-03-2011, 05:41 PM
| | | | Well, I called GC, and they said they will replace them. After one idiot tried to tell me they were like that intentionally, as was the bridge(was not). They offered a whole new bass, but no stores have them in stock. Its going back. The back has so much buckle scratch, its ridiculous. Shouldnt be that way with a brand new bass.
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06-03-2011, 06:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chester, Pa.,USA | | | No, they don't intentionally do that. They just got rusty. It happens.
If you're careful to not strip the screw heads, you should have no problem getting them out.
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06-03-2011, 06:36 PM
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Endorsing Artist: Dark Horse strings | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Verde Valley, AZ | | | No need to replace the screws, just wirebrush them and they'll look as good as new.
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06-03-2011, 06:39 PM
|  | keepin' the beat since the 60's | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Studio City, SoCal, USA | | | A FINE wire brush or some very fine sandpaper. Sand in the same direction as one of the slots as it will look cool. I do this all the time with older basses. Put a little auto polish, etc. on them and it will slow down rust in the future.
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06-03-2011, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeAndAirwaves Well, I called GC, and they said they will replace them. After one idiot tried to tell me they were like that intentionally, as was the bridge(was not). They offered a whole new bass, but no stores have them in stock. Its going back. The back has so much buckle scratch, its ridiculous. Shouldnt be that way with a brand new bass. | Wrong idea! It's NOT a new bass. It's a floor demo model and you should be paying a significantly reduced price for that! If you aren't then it should go back.
As for the why of rusty screws? Um, probably just a result of all the teen drool on the bass as they stop by every weekend to slap the daylights out of it... 
When I encounter this sort of rust my solution is a trip to the hardware store where I pick up some similar screws in stainless steel. You can argue they aren't as shiny as chrome, but the problem is then solved forever! |
06-04-2011, 12:48 AM
| | | | Well, the guy knocked 50 dollars of the case, cause they had them in another store on sale. So it IS going back. How much should be knocked off? |
06-04-2011, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by michael_atw That wasn't his question. His question was "why are my pickguard screws rusted on a "new" floor model instrument?" | Well, pardon me all to pieces. 
If you want an answer to "why", the smartass answer is "oxidation". The practical answer is "cheap screws and humidity."
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06-04-2011, 12:36 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: North Port Fl. | | | If you knew it was a demo and took that into consideration with the asking price and agreed to the deal its a DONE deal. I do believe that GC does give you 30 days to be happy. If your sad after a week or so take it back......however remove the "stainless" screws you bought at the hardware store for a few bucks and replace them with the rusted ones. Fair is fair.
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06-04-2011, 04:51 PM
| | | | If you want stainless screw that shine like chrome just get them made from 316 instead of 18-8. Screws made from 316 come out of the box with a high shine and will have the bluish hue chrome has.
It might take a minute to find what you need in 316 and it will cost more than 18-8, but it looks just like chrome and will never rust up.
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06-07-2011, 11:35 AM
| | | DO NOT, REPEAT,DO NOT remove those rusted screws! They are part of the"vintage" in"vintage modified". Replacing them will only suck out the vintage tones Squier has worked so hard to put into the instrument!.....btw, what are the best pickguard screws for metal? |
06-07-2011, 11:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | Quote:
Originally Posted by a707780 DO NOT, REPEAT,DO NOT remove those rusted screws! They are part of the"vintage" in"vintage modified". Replacing them will only suck out the vintage tones Squier has worked so hard to put into the instrument!.....btw, what are the best pickguard screws for metal? | I think removing the screws lets the mojo leak out. Very bad.
I would say that metal screws are the best for metal.
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06-07-2011, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim Well, pardon me all to pieces.
If you want an answer to "why", the smartass answer is "oxidation". The practical answer is "cheap screws and humidity." | I could have sworn the initial answer was the smartass one. Maybe this one is the follow-up smartass one? What would be the "un-smart-ass" response? Do you have one?
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