Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-22-2012, 03:13 PM
TheWoodShed's Avatar
God of Thunder...retired.
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Supporting Member
Soaking up the lemon oil like a sponge...

Sign in to disble this ad
Every 6 months or so I always take a day or so to do a few applications of lemon oil on my fretboard and generally on my basses it is only two or three applications and we are done. However I am showing my 13 year old daughter how to change the strings on her guitars and her acoustic has been soaking up lemon oil on the fretboard lik nobody's business. I would say we are on the 10th or so application. Should I just keep going?
__________________
WTB:
2 EMG Quick connect battery cables
  #2  
Old 01-22-2012, 03:21 PM
Darkstrike's Avatar
Drunk on power... and beer
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland.
Supporting Member
Dang! I'd have been afraid to keep going well before 10 coats.
__________________
The winners are crying and the losers are dancing.
  #3  
Old 01-22-2012, 03:58 PM
TheWoodShed's Avatar
God of Thunder...retired.
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Supporting Member
Usually you go until you wipe off the excess oil but that takes only two or the applications.
__________________
WTB:
2 EMG Quick connect battery cables

Last edited by TheWoodShed : 01-22-2012 at 04:01 PM.
  #4  
Old 01-22-2012, 05:47 PM
Pilgrim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Supporting Member
If you must oil - because I don't - oil ONCE, LIGHTLY - then stop and wipe it off. The wood doesn't need more.

All you're doing is increasing the chance your frets will come loose.
__________________
"...awesome as a monkey wearing a tuxedo made of bacon, riding on a unicorn!'"
  #5  
Old 01-22-2012, 06:47 PM
TheWoodShed's Avatar
God of Thunder...retired.
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Supporting Member
Hmm...not sure I understand why people are so hesitant to oil their boards. Alembic says you should at least every six months. The maker of my Acacia also used oil although he used gunstock oil.
__________________
WTB:
2 EMG Quick connect battery cables
  #6  
Old 01-22-2012, 07:01 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ohio
Send a message via AIM to MechEngr
I worked as a luthier for several years, and still do as a hobby. Rosewood and ebony are extremely oily woods to begin with, but that oil does dry out over time, which causes the wood to shrink bit, more so across the grain than with the grain. If you ever had the ends of frets stick out from a fretboard when they once weren't, you may have seen the results of this drying process. That said, when you oil the fretboard, you can understand that the frets become more tightly engaged, not less. I'm guessing that the acoustic guitar mentioned by Woodshed has a fretboard made of something other than these two woods, and that's why it's drinking up all the oil. The only downside I see to over-oiling a board is that it will grow slightly (and slowly) in the long direction, causing the neck to bend backwards a bit, in the direction you'd get if you tightened up the truss rod. On a neck that's been dry for some time, then heavily oiled, this usually leads to the player having to loosen the rod to compensate.
  #7  
Old 01-22-2012, 07:39 PM
TheWoodShed's Avatar
God of Thunder...retired.
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Supporting Member
It is a rosewood board.
__________________
WTB:
2 EMG Quick connect battery cables
  #8  
Old 01-22-2012, 09:51 PM
bassman_al's Avatar
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fairfax, VA USA
Send a message via AIM to bassman_al
Supporting Member
Check out Fret Doctor. It is a completely natural and amazing oil. A search here will get you the story. I use it on all my rosewood fretboards. You won't need to apply nearly as frequently as every 6 months.
__________________
Triple Double Jazz Band
After Hours Band
'94 MIA '62 RI/AV Jazz
'98 MIA P-bass
Fender MIM 2010/2007 hybrid fretless Jazz
Genz-Benz Shuttle 6.0
Epifani PS112
Trace Elliot 1518C
  #9  
Old 01-22-2012, 10:05 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
As i understand it, most stuff sold as "lemon oil" contains little oil. Much is solvent based which i've read actually can dry out wood. Sadowsky says use boiled linseed oil.
__________________
Luckydog
  #10  
Old 01-22-2012, 10:21 PM
seanm's Avatar
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize!
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Send a message via AIM to seanm Send a message via Yahoo to seanm
GOLD Supporting Member
I thought lemon oil was a no no since it tends to dry out the wood?
__________________
The Rippers
  #11  
Old 01-22-2012, 10:28 PM
TheWoodShed's Avatar
God of Thunder...retired.
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Supporting Member
Taken from the Alembic Owner's Manual on their website:

Quote:
Fingerboard Care

The fingerboard of your bass is unfinished ebony. It will respond to changes in humidity and if not properly maintained, may need to be replaced due to excessive checking and cracking. You will need to oil your fingerboard at least twice a year. We recommend using pure lemon oil (available at health food stores in the aromatherapy section), but any transparent lemon oil will do nicely. Avoid brands that are cloudy, their high wax content only leaves your fingerboard dirty and all that wax makes your strings go dead more quickly.
To oil you fingerboard you should:
  1. Remove the strings.
  2. Saturate the fingerboard with the oil. Let it absorb for at least thirty minutes or until most of the oil is absorbed.
  3. Wipe the excess oil with rags or an old T-shirt. Make sure you get in right next to the fret edges. The cleaner you get the board at this stage, the longer your next set of strings will last.
  4. Re-string with your old strings and play the bass for a day or two before putting fresh strings on.
You may notice that the first time the humidity takes a big swing that the fret edges may protrude over the edge of the fingerboard. These can be easily filed flush and you will probably only have to do this once. You can get a service sheet from us if you'd like to do this job yourself.
__________________
WTB:
2 EMG Quick connect battery cables
  #12  
Old 01-23-2012, 04:58 AM
bassman_al's Avatar
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fairfax, VA USA
Send a message via AIM to bassman_al
Supporting Member
A lot of threads on TB warn against lemon oil. That is how I found FD, which goes on and off really easily. It's expensive but you use so little it lasts forever. One small dot o oil every other fret. Wipe on with cotton ball. Let sit a few minutes. Wipe excess off with cloth or paper towel. Buff with terry cloth.
__________________
Triple Double Jazz Band
After Hours Band
'94 MIA '62 RI/AV Jazz
'98 MIA P-bass
Fender MIM 2010/2007 hybrid fretless Jazz
Genz-Benz Shuttle 6.0
Epifani PS112
Trace Elliot 1518C
  #13  
Old 01-23-2012, 08:52 AM
Coolhandjjl's Avatar
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Appleton
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanm View Post
I thought lemon oil was a no no since it tends to dry out the wood?
'Cause most of the stuff out there is only partially lemon oil, the main ingredient is a highly evaporative solvent that does damage.
__________________
Rickenbacker Club #353 | Rickenmodder Club #16
Rics & Hamers
Reiner Pre | Peavey MaxBass Pre | Crest CA9
Bill Fitzmaurice O212 | fEARful 15/6
  #14  
Old 01-23-2012, 09:00 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lancaster Pa
I just wanted to chime in with a product that I really like:

Bore Oil for the Fife and Fret Doctor
  #15  
Old 01-23-2012, 09:01 AM
Slowgypsy's Avatar
Signed, Sealed, Delivered
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NY & MA
GOLD Supporting Member
Frank Ford is a legendary luthier. Anyone will agree, without exception, that he knows his stuff. He maintains a huge website dedicated to all things pertaining to instrument repair and maintenance. A must read for anyone interested in working on their instruments.
FRETS.COM Acoustic guitar instrument care, repair for players, luthiers
__________________
Where words fail, music speaks.
www.thepeachys.com
  #16  
Old 01-23-2012, 09:05 AM
bassman_al's Avatar
Supporting Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fairfax, VA USA
Send a message via AIM to bassman_al
Supporting Member
Quote:
I just wanted to chime in with a product that I really like:

Bore Oil for the Fife and Fret Doctor
Reply With Quote
This is the stuff I am talking about. Great stuff.
__________________
Triple Double Jazz Band
After Hours Band
'94 MIA '62 RI/AV Jazz
'98 MIA P-bass
Fender MIM 2010/2007 hybrid fretless Jazz
Genz-Benz Shuttle 6.0
Epifani PS112
Trace Elliot 1518C
  #17  
Old 01-23-2012, 09:32 AM
Pilgrim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slowgypsy View Post
Frank Ford is a legendary luthier. Anyone will agree, without exception, that he knows his stuff. He maintains a huge website dedicated to all things pertaining to instrument repair and maintenance. A must read for anyone interested in working on their instruments.
FRETS.COM Acoustic guitar instrument care, repair for players, luthiers
Informative site, but I just spent 10 minutes on it searching every page I could find (using Firefox's Edit>Find tool and looking for the character string "oil") and I was unable to find anything about oiling fretboards.
__________________
"...awesome as a monkey wearing a tuxedo made of bacon, riding on a unicorn!'"
  #18  
Old 01-23-2012, 09:49 AM
Bangin' out the bottom end for 44 years!
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Connecticut
Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWoodShed View Post
Should I just keep going?
Hell no. Don't be surprised if her frets start popping out ... fret slots expose end grain, and that's where the lemon oil is going. Personally, in 45 years of playing I have NEVER oiled (or treated in any way) a fretboard. Maintain proper humidity and they need no care, other than normal wipedown with a cloth when changing strings.
__________________
- Denny
  #19  
Old 01-23-2012, 11:49 AM
Slowgypsy's Avatar
Signed, Sealed, Delivered
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NY & MA
GOLD Supporting Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilgrim View Post
Informative site, but I just spent 10 minutes on it searching every page I could find (using Firefox's Edit>Find tool and looking for the character string "oil") and I was unable to find anything about oiling fretboards.
FRETS.COM

It's a 3 page section. Bit about using oil on the fretboard is on page 2.
__________________
Where words fail, music speaks.
www.thepeachys.com
  #20  
Old 01-23-2012, 12:13 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Put me down for never having oiled a fretboard and never had any problems with fretboard shrinkage, loose frets, or any other problem associated with frets or fretboards beyond normal wear from playing.

I've bought used basses with massive crud buildup on the neck/frets and used warm soapy water and a cloth or toothbrush to remove the mung, but I just wiped them dry and restrung them when I was done.

One thing to note here. With few exceptions I've only owned Fender and Peavey basses so I can't really speak for any other brand.
__________________
“Alcohol tobacco and firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency” –anon-
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:10 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.