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01-22-2010, 07:26 PM
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Recently bought a new Epiphone Thunderbird pro bass.
I've noticed that the fret/fret wire looks like its splitting on most of the frets. Not sure why, I've heard various explanations...coating on the fret wire? or nickel strings rubbing against nickel fret wire?
I've still got the factory strings on since I got the bass.
I'm not sure if its a fault in the fret wire material.
comments advice greatly needed. | 
01-22-2010, 07:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland | | Never heard of such a thing.  | 
01-22-2010, 07:46 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pittsburgh | | | picture? | 
01-22-2010, 09:55 PM
|  | Analyzer Records Endorsing Artist: Mesa/Boogie - Shop Manager/Tech, SF Guitarworks | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA | | | It sounds like you're just got some fret wear, which is totally normal. If you want to fix it, a fret level would be the way to go. | 
01-22-2010, 10:00 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Canada. | | On a new bass? I have to see pictures of that  Please. | 
01-23-2010, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by erikbojerik Never heard of such a thing.  | +10000
There's always a possibility that the stresses while cold rolling the frets make the crown split over time, but as a BEng I find that very, very hard to believe on a profile like that.
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01-23-2010, 02:58 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Gladstone, QLD, Australia | | | not splitting...look closer...
wire is dulling on top where the string is contacting...
looks like a split, but is not...
solution...replace the old, nasty strings and clean the frets & fretboard while you're at it. | 
01-23-2010, 05:53 AM
|  | Registered User Owner and builder Clementbass | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Central Florida | | Either that or possibly the slackers that made it sprayed the whole neck and didn't clean the spray off the frets when it dried? Now it is cracking and looking like hell? 
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01-23-2010, 06:39 AM
| | | | thats probably it. i had a really old crappy guitar from japan that this happened on exactly. once the strings wore through the finish to the frets, the laquer started to peel and loked like the frets were cracking. some tape and a wire brush took care of it.
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02-07-2010, 07:27 PM
|  | Registered User Owner/Builder: HJC Customs USA, The Cool Lute, C G O | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southwest Michigan | | | any pics of this occurance may aide in explaining what you are seeing. | 
02-08-2010, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM if you want answers, post in the proper subforum. if you want to be relentlessly goofed on, keep posting in forums that have nothing to do with your problem. | "Bass Central Bass Central invites you to participate, chime in, and sound off, about gear or anything else bass related!"
Describe the problem more, is it the frets peeling away from the fingerboard or is it the actual fret getting ruined. But I have never heard of coated frets before. | 
02-08-2010, 04:37 AM
| | | | splitting frets Well its the actual fret wire that appears to be splitting, if you look at a metal fret wire going across the neck mine has lines/ splits in them I can almost get my fingernail into them. It seems to be happening to most of the frets | 
02-08-2010, 08:23 AM
| | | | Thanks for your help, I appreciate it | 
02-08-2010, 09:14 AM
|  | You don't want to do that. Trust me. Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: atlanta ga | | | i've merged all the threads on this topic into one thread.
please use this thread for further questions. thanks.
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02-09-2010, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mothytim2001 Well its the actual fret wire that appears to be splitting, if you look at a metal fret wire going across the neck mine has lines/ splits in them I can almost get my fingernail into them. It seems to be happening to most of the frets | That's most likely a groove worn into the fret by one of the windings of a roundwound string. | 
02-10-2010, 05:04 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) | | Hi. Quote:
Originally Posted by mothytim2001 Well its the actual fret wire that appears to be splitting, if you look at a metal fret wire going across the neck mine has lines/ splits in them I can almost get my fingernail into them. It seems to be happening to most of the frets | While I still believe this is the reason: Quote:
Originally Posted by zombywoof5050 That's most likely a groove worn into the fret by one of the windings of a roundwound string. | I'd really, really like to see a pic of the splitting frets. I'd make a wild guess that I'm not the only one either.
Like I said earlier, I've seen such splitting on other cold rolled copper alloy items, but never on frets. And I've seen/worked on frets from all over the world  . 3dec3, You have never seen painted/laquered fretboards where the frets have recieved their fair share of said plastic???
You must use/test quality instruments only. Even Fender USA is guilty of that sloppiness IME.
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Sam | 
02-10-2010, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mothytim2001 Well its the actual fret wire that appears to be splitting, if you look at a metal fret wire going across the neck mine has lines/ splits in them I can almost get my fingernail into them. It seems to be happening to most of the frets | Please. Post. A. Photo.
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02-10-2010, 11:23 AM
| | | | Thanks for all comments/help. I'm gonna get some photo's taken and post them | 
02-10-2010, 11:28 AM
| | | | ...also if it is roundwound strings wearing a groove into the frets, then the quality of the frets must be terrible, I mean its never happened on any other bass I've had | 
02-10-2010, 12:06 PM
|  | You don't want to do that. Trust me. Forum Administrator | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: atlanta ga | | | i've seen grooves worn in frets on both my 73 ric and my 77 fender jazz.
both got played a lot.
my conklins get played a lot too, but i have yet to see anything like this on them.
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