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07-22-2001, 01:21 PM
| | Wesly Headpush | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Port Alberni, BC. Canada | |
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I've got a problem. I play a fiver and my guitarist is tuned extremely low (like standard drop D .. but it's actually B) I tune my bass so that the B is normally where the D would be (3rd fret on the B string) still with me ? If I would have known this earlier I wouldn't have changed my tuning at all. Now I have a choice .. I either have to relearn all the songs tuned standard or set up my bass so that I can get some more string tension while tuned this low.. the tension problem makes me play sloppy while doing some stuff (mostly 3 finger stuff) and I don't think it sounds all that great either.. Is there anything I can do to get some tension happening ? Because I'd rather not relearn all the songs.
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07-22-2001, 01:40 PM
| | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The land of chicken fried funk | | I would think you could install a string tree in the headstock to put some angle on the string and increase tension. Maybe www.stewmac.com has them. I did a crude version of this with nails when I was given a guitar-guitar one Christmas as my first fretted instrument.
....or get a 7-string?
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07-22-2001, 02:21 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 's-Hertogenbosch, The Netherla | | Quote: | I tune my bass so that the B is normally where the D would be (3rd fret on the B string) still with me ? | is that.. like.. drop G ? wow.. you going for the fieldy-thingy ??  |
07-22-2001, 02:26 PM
| | Wesly Headpush | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Port Alberni, BC. Canada | | Quote: Originally posted by AllodoX
is that.. like.. drop G ? wow.. you going for the fieldy-thingy ?? | Ug ... it was an accident! hehe, I don't like fieldy ... but it does sound like that  I asked my guitarist if we could tune up a few steps and try it out.. but he's such a nazi control freak he won't even try it.
God forbid we get a CD out.... can't wait to be ripped apart here
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07-22-2001, 02:32 PM
| | Wesly Headpush | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Port Alberni, BC. Canada | | | I can see it now
Poll : Fieldy vs Loop22
JT : Light them on fire!
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07-22-2001, 02:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Vancouver area, BC, Canada | | | Ok here is a good solution... tune the string back up to B, then tune all the rest 3 semitones higher too, then you will have the string tension you want and then some... and you will just have to relearn any open strings you used to play... or I guess any notes in the first couple of frets... but the patterns will be the same for the songs as you go down the bass.
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07-22-2001, 04:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 's-Hertogenbosch, The Netherla | | Quote: Originally posted by loop22
I asked my guitarist if we could tune up a few steps and try it out.. but he's such a nazi control freak he won't even try it. | 3 words : kick him out
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07-25-2001, 12:57 PM
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ugh, just relearn the songs in standard B E A D G tuning. It wont take that long (unless youre doing some crazy Jaco stuff on there) and you will thank yourself when you are done. |
07-25-2001, 06:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden | | | Yeah man, do tune the normal way, and relearn. Are the songs really hard? It might be a problem at first, but as the other person said, it's the same pattern. |
07-26-2001, 10:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: lower mid Sweden | | | Tension is a function of frequency and gauge.
With a certain gauge, you will loose tension when opting for a lower note.
By going for a heavier gauge, you get lower freq at the same tension.
I.e. you need a heavy string.
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07-26-2001, 04:55 PM
| | Vorsprung durch Technik | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cologne, Germany | | | Using the term tension for two different things is what makes this issue so confusing.
Tension is only dependent on the pitch you tune a string to.
Using different gauges changes the "stiffness or flexibility" of a string, which will almost feel as a change of tension.
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07-26-2001, 05:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denver, CO | |  suggestions
Sorry JMX, but tension is dependant on both the pitch AND the mass/lentgh ratio of the string... if one has two strings of equal tension and length but different thicknesses (actually mass per length is important here), the thicker string has a lower frequency. So if you want to have a lower frequency without changing tension, get heavier strings (to a point, don't break your nut)
But to Loop, im voting with the "relearn your songs" team. I had a similiar problem when i bought a 5 string, i used to play drop D with my 4, but relearning the songs was definately the way to go. You can walk into a guitar store and play without having to retune... plus in my opinion the tone is better when you're tuned normally... i can't stand the floppy sound of a detuned bass string....
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