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01-23-2010, 09:38 AM
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I've got a jazz bass with stripped screws the hold the jack plate. I'm familiar with the toothpick and glue method for fixing strap buttons, and I also found a thread on the plug cutter for fixing that, but what about the smaller holes for a jack plate? Maybe just some wood filler?
Thank you. 
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01-23-2010, 09:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: D'Shaw | | | I usually use the toothpick method.
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01-23-2010, 09:50 AM
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Midtown Guitars | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 810, Michigan | | | wood filler IMO wouldnt secure the jack well enough,
especially since you'd be plugging in and out often, it would wear out.
"tooth pick method" offers a little more security, and will last a bit longer. |
01-23-2010, 09:51 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chicago | | | This advice works for me (& makes sense): since toothpick wood is usually softer/lower quality, get a bit of hardwood veneer (maple, cherry, etc.) and slice it up into small slivers...then the usual routine: dip a sliver in some wood glue, drop in the hole, repeat a few times. Let dry and then remount the plate. |
01-23-2010, 09:52 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | Wood filler can crumble - I'd use the toothpick or hardwood sliver and wood glue (not superglue, not Gorilla glue) fix.
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01-23-2010, 09:57 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia Beach, VA | | | Ammended toothpick method:
Mix up some JB Weld or marine epoxy....a small amt is sufficient. Liberally coat the tapered end of a round toothpick (if a toothpick wasn't tapered, it would be a dowel...d'oh!). Insert in the screw hole and snip off the excess. Carefully wipe away any overflow with some mild solvent and rag. Allow to cure. Drill a small pilot hole with your Dremel (you do own a Dremel, don't you?) and properly-sized micro bit. Re-insert / thread screw.
This works 'cuz (a) the drill bit will follow the softer sacrificial toothpick and (b) cured JB Weld can be tapped, painted, whatever forming a permanent repair. I guarantee that bad boy will never strip out again. I've used the same method for strap pins, control cavity covers, even stripped screw holes in graphite epoxy necks.
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01-23-2010, 10:39 AM
| | | Oh, yes I do own a Dremel. I love that thing. 
Did you know that it comes with a warning not to use it as a dental drill? 
Anyway, thank you to all of you for the solutions. I appreciate it.
Off to Lowes. 
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01-23-2010, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by smoothdave  Oh, yes I do own a Dremel. I love that thing.
Did you know that it comes with a warning not to use it as a dental drill? | I have a running joke with my dentist, Dr. Leidy, about leaving the rat-race and moving to Guatemala with just a Dremel tool and a pair of pliers.
Keep us updated on the repairs.
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01-23-2010, 11:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | Zoober, the more time s I read that procedure, the more sense it makes. +1.
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01-23-2010, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Zooberwerx Ammended toothpick method:
Mix up some JB Weld or marine epoxy....a small amt is sufficient. Liberally coat the tapered end of a round toothpick (if a toothpick wasn't tapered, it would be a dowel...d'oh!). Insert in the screw hole and snip off the excess. Carefully wipe away any overflow with some mild solvent and rag. Allow to cure. Drill a small pilot hole with your Dremel (you do own a Dremel, don't you?) and properly-sized micro bit. Re-insert / thread screw.
This works 'cuz (a) the drill bit will follow the softer sacrificial toothpick and (b) cured JB Weld can be tapped, painted, whatever forming a permanent repair. I guarantee that bad boy will never strip out again. I've used the same method for strap pins, control cavity covers, even stripped screw holes in graphite epoxy necks.
Riis | This works great.
I've also simply filled the holes with epoxy putty/dough. Let it set overnight, drill/screw, done.
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01-23-2010, 11:21 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Close to Los Angeles, CA | | | I've stripped the holes on one of my Jazz bass' control plates a million times now.
The method that has been working for me so far is to fill the hole with baking soda, and then drip in some super-glue. (Make sure the glue fully saturates the powder.)
Once the glue has dried, re-drill the hole and put the screw back in. |
01-23-2010, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilgrim Zoober, the more time s I read that procedure, the more sense it makes. +1. | It really does work although I would like to hear of situations where it doesn't hold up as promised. This procedure came about when a tuner anchor screw snapped off in a hollow graphite composite headstock. I didn't want to drill a second pilot hole as it would have thrown off the tuner's mounting axis. I was able to drill the remnant of the broken screw but it left a very shallow (the graphite is not that thick) channel which was beyond repair using the traditional toothpick / glue method. Instead, I placed a piece of tape on the inner aspect with some curved needle-nose hobby pliers to act as a dam and "backfilled" the abyss with marine epoxy (JB Weld works well, too) and re-drilled after the patch cured.
Keep in mind that the stress on most screws is lateral in nature.
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01-23-2010, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Zooberwerx It really does work although I would like to hear of situations where it doesn't hold up as promised. | I think line6man might be your ideal test case here.
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01-23-2010, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by smoothdave I think line6man might be your ideal test case here. | Yep....sounds like he's experiencing recurrent structural compromise.
Today's project at the Zooberwerx household: installing removable casters on the sub enclosures. I'm gonna put some sort of steering harness on each so I can jump on it whilst in the trailer, shove off down the ramp, and ride the things to the stage.
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01-23-2010, 05:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado | | | You're lucky. I just spent 7 hours working on my wife's BMW that's been dead for a week - much of the day spent in a garage slowly warming from 35 to 55 degrees. But it's running like a watch now, and I'm heading up for a shower.
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01-23-2010, 10:46 PM
| | | | You guys are killing me!
wooden toothpicks, slathered with wood glue, and crank the screw in while it's still wet!
That's how it's done in wood bodies; not epoxy, not superglue, none of that. wood glue and toothpicks, screw cranked in while still wet. fast, easy, and (more important) as strong as the original wood.
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01-23-2010, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by smoothdave Did you know that it comes with a warning not to use it as a dental drill? | They do call it "tooth carpentry," after all!  |
01-24-2010, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by line6man I've stripped the holes on one of my Jazz bass' control plates a million times now.
The method that has been working for me so far is to fill the hole with baking soda, and then drip in some super-glue. (Make sure the glue fully saturates the powder.)
Once the glue has dried, re-drill the hole and put the screw back in. | That works too.
Baking soda, superglue, and ductape holds the universe together.
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01-24-2010, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mongo2 Baking soda, superglue, and ductape holds the universe together. | All of life's problems can be solved with WD40 and duct tape.
If it doesn't move... WD40.
If it isn't supposed to move... duct tape. |
01-24-2010, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mongo2 That works too.
Baking soda, superglue, and ductape holds the universe together. | Also...
Chewing gum, wire (baling or other), electrical ties, twist ties, vinyl electricians' tape, velcro, etc.
I did an on-site repair on Tim's Telecaster strap pin with super glue and a sandwich toothpick procurred from the bar. Project consideration: use the toothpick's tapered end, not the one with the colored cellophane tassle. I figured that if it keeps the rye bread from sliding off the top of a greasy Reuben, its more than adequate for a MIK guitar.
The Kentucky Headhunters did an endorsement for D'addario strings touting, not only their excellent performance on stage, but their durability when used to wire up a busted muffler for the long drive home.
^^ All good reasons to have me banished from the Hardware, Setup, and Repair forum.
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