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Old 05-14-2007, 02:04 AM
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So my straplock screw got pulled throught the wood and now its all loose

Ive read about stuffing the hole with toothpics and wood glue, letting it set then screwing straight into it.

So, is super glue a good alternative to wood glue?
And if anyone has some pictures of a step-by-step or even a shot of the toothpics in there before screwing it would be nice.

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Old 05-14-2007, 03:12 AM
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So my straplock screw got pulled throught the wood and now its all loose

Ive read about stuffing the hole with toothpics and wood glue, letting it set then screwing straight into it.

So, is super glue a good alternative to wood glue?
And if anyone has some pictures of a step-by-step or even a shot of the toothpics in there before screwing it would be nice.

Thanks in advance
super glue will work well, it bonds with wood nicely...if you use super-glue, tape off your work...it's a bear to clean up, where wood glue is a wipe down with a wet cloth.

put a dab of glue into the hole... stick the toothpick (or two if they fit) into the hole)...let the glue dry...

take a box cutting knife and cut the toothpick(s) off flush...then just put the screw back in...

it's really that simple.
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Old 05-14-2007, 06:23 AM
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Or you can put the glue on the toothpicks(round toothpicks ) they are made of hard wood and will be sa strong as or stronger than the original wood. I think the reason behind not using super glue is when it dries it becomes brittle and when you put the screw in the hole it does not give like wood glue. So it may be more difficult to get the screw back in. Just My .02 worth.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:30 AM
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my experience w/super glue hasen't been good, it's over-rated. My first bass is literally coming apart and I've tried everything to keep it together. Wood glue doesn't mesh well with the metal screw. I tried LocTite, which kept my bridge from popping out, but wasen't so good for keeping my input jack and pots from coming lose. For that I use all-purpose Rhino glue, although you must be careful because it expands as it dries.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:59 AM
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Superglue comes in various viscosities. Get the thick stuff, often sold as a gel, as it has gap-filling capabilities that the thinner stuff does not. The thinner stuff has a tendency to soak into wood and leave gaps. Also use a kicker or primer on the area to be glued as the gel takes longer to set up. Woodworking suppliers generally carry this stuff in larger quantities and better prices than other sources.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:14 PM
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You will get much better results with good old fashioned white Elmer's glue. The yellow is even better.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:55 PM
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:57 PM
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I had to do this once and I used the round toothpicks and elmer's wood glue. I let it dry for a couple of days, then drilled and screwed, worked great.
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I've used super glue for pretty much all my strap locks, but I go through the process a little differently. First, I don't use any toothpicks. Second, I use alot of glue. Basically, i apply the glue to pretty much fill the screw hole. I let it set for about a minute, then I coat the screw with super glue, and then push the screw in the hole and use a screwdriver to turn it just a little less than halfway, then I scotch tape it up and let it set for about an hour.

It's always worked great for me, and when you need to remove the screw, it will just unscrew normally. A good technique to use if the straplock screw is too small for the hole as well or if a screw gets stripped.

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Old 05-16-2007, 01:02 PM
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So my straplock screw got pulled throught the wood and now its all loose

Ive read about stuffing the hole with toothpics and wood glue, letting it set then screwing straight into it.

So, is super glue a good alternative to wood glue?
And if anyone has some pictures of a step-by-step or even a shot of the toothpics in there before screwing it would be nice.
Everyone has some pretty useful ideas so far. My PC desk fell completely apart 3-weeks ago. Some wood screws, pieces of pine stock and LOTS of yellow wood glue made that rickety junk desk very solid. The wood glue dries so hard.. its great. And in your case, you'll not even have to worry about clamping anything like I did.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:37 PM
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Wood glue is good. Match sticks/toothpicks and CA Glue (from the hobby store) is a good solution too.
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Old 05-18-2007, 04:22 PM
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Wood glue is good. Match sticks/toothpicks and CA Glue (from the hobby store) is a good solution too.
Match sticks are not a good choice. Too soft. Toothpicks are usually birch or maple.

Yellow carpenters wood glue is, IMO, the best choice of glue.
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After nearly dropping a bass when that happened, I use JB Weld. Ain't no collector anyway....
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:37 PM
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After nearly dropping a bass when that happened, I use JB Weld. Ain't no collector anyway....
I've heard about that stuff a couple of other times.. I better pay attention this time before I forget about it again. I'll be looking to buy some of that "JB Weld" soon.. thank you

With epoxy, the yellow carpenter's glue, Elmer's glue and now JB Weld, I should have enough adhesives to fix most mishaps or finish projects.
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:52 PM
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Huh....

I have always either used the yellow carpenters glue or elmers white glue and a toothpick then turned the screw in while still wet and then don't mess with it till dry.

Except on the one strap knob I worked on. I just got a screw that was one size bigger and an inch longer. I had to drill out the strap button hole, but meh...it worked. The guy I sold the bass to still has it 20 years later, and the repair held.

I now replace my strap knob screws with longer stainless steel screws right away....did so on my Fullerton a month ago. Will do same with the SX.This is also a good time to move the bottom strap button up an inch to help with neckdive on basses such as my Fullerton, that need it.
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Old 05-18-2007, 09:19 PM
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I prefer the brush-on super glue. Its thinner and easily fills nooks and crannies without clumping up like the gels. Here's a couple of repair jobs I've done recently:

I managed to strip a straplock screw hole in a mahogany body. I brushed a healthy amount of super glue on two toothpicks and jammed them tightly into the hole. I clipped off the excess, waited ~5 minutes, then reintroduced the screw. Works like a charm.

Found I had a badly worn graphite nut slot. Instead of replacing the nut, I roughed up the suspect slot, brushed on a light coat of super glue, and then sprinkled on a pinch of graphite powder. Once the patch had dried, I refiled to the appropriate depth and shape.

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Old 05-18-2007, 09:42 PM
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So my straplock screw got pulled throught the wood and now its all loose
I drilled new holes in more practical spots, that was my solution. You can't even see the old holes anyways.
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